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Month: September 2011

Re: [trinity-users] TDE package(s) installing kdesudo as unwanted "recommends" in Squeeze

From: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:26:06 -0500
> On Tue September 20 2011, David Hare <David Hare
> <davidahare@...>> wrote:
>> On 20/09/11 18:36, Greg Madden wrote:
>> > I am a Squeeze-KDE trinity user.
>> >
>> > KDE-trinity does seem to have more depends than I would like to
>> > see,  but as long as they are recommends or suggestions I have
>> > control of what gets installed. Afaik 'apt.conf' file will set
>> > up a global recommends/suggestion install policy for your
>> > system. Some package managers are better than others in showing
>> > what is a recommend or suggestion, i personally like 'dselect'
>> >
>> > A DE will function fine without recommends&  suggestions.
>> > Increased functionality is a personal thing, if you want it you
>> > will know it and can install as needed.
>> >
>> > As far as a bug I would say not necessarily,  it is a decision
>> > someone made, minds can change, suggest a different possibility.
>> I use apt-get, which by default installs "recommends". I know how
>> to use apt.conf
>> My point is that sudo, if wanted on a Debian system, is normally
>> configured by deliberate user action only and has no apparent
>> reason to be a "recommends" of a multimedia application.
>> Also what has kpackage got to do with multimedia?
> This is REALLY a stretch, but perhaps someone thought that installing
> a multimedia package would lead to wanting to fiddle with the audio
> and video drivers on the machine, and that was a good reason to
> recommend KDE-specific tools for that??

Actually, that's it exactly.  Typical hack-arounds for inaccessible
devices usually include running the offending application as root to make
sure that permissions are not part of the problem.  Not that I encourage
this behaviour, but you have to remember that I inherited the original
packaging control files from Ubuntu, and apparently someone there thought
this was a good idea...

Why don't you create a bug report listing the various packages that
incorrectly recommend sudo, and I'll do a batch commit removing the
offending recommends from Debian.