On Friday 08 March 2019 08:15:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 08 March 2019 11:05:54 William Morder wrote: > > On Friday 08 March 2019 07:23:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 08 March 2019 09:15:16 William Morder wrote: > > > > On Friday 08 March 2019 01:54:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Friday 08 March 2019 00:18:11 David C. Rankin wrote: > > > > > > On 03/01/2019 08:55 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > Greetings; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this mornings update, which refreshed about 25% of > > > > > > > tde, I ran okular to check on the docs for something > > > > > > > synaptic showed me in a changelog from linuxcnc, and got > > > > > > > this spew in the terminal I ran okular from after I had > > > > > > > rebooted: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gene@GO704:~$ okular > > > > > > > > > > > > Gene, > > > > > > > > > > > > Okular was the KDE4 replacement to kpdf that had a number of > > > > > > bugs. It is the pdf viewer in KDE5 (Plasma) -- it has gotten > > > > > > better there, but.... > > > > > > > > > > > > none of that explains how its failure is related to TDE? I > > > > > > suspect you have installed okular and it has pulled in its > > > > > > KDE4/Plasma dependencies and -- how now fallen flat on it face > > > > > > (a routine problem with KDE4/Plasma). > > > > > > > > > > And just one of the reasons I baled to TDE. :) > > > > > > > > > > > Additionally, it is based on Qt4/Frameworks in the various > > > > > > versions, so there shouldn't be a Qt conflict. > > > > > > > > > > > > Changes in TDE should not affect okular and vice-versa (it > > > > > > would be very strange if there was still a common library name > > > > > > being used between the two -- and then your package manager > > > > > > should have flagged it). > > > > > > > > > > > > Also note: > > > > > > > > > > > > kbuildsycoca4 running... > > > > > > kbuildsycoca4(3570) KBuildSycoca::checkTimestamps: checking > > > > > > file timestamps > > > > > > kbuildsycoca4(3570) KBuildSycoca::checkTimestamps: timestamps > > > > > > check ok kbuildsycoca4(3570) kdemain: Emitting > > > > > > notifyDatabaseChanged () > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kbuildsycoca4 is the KDE4 (KDE Build System Config Cache) > > > > > > > > > > And what do you call your equivalent to kbuildsycoca4? > > > > > > > > > > > I think you have a KDE4/Qt4 problem -- who would have > > > > > > thought... Nuke it! > > > > > > > > > > But if you want a clean printout, okular is king. Telling evince > > > > > to fit to page runs stuff off the top and bottom of the page, on > > > > > a printer that claims to be borderless, but is perfect as a > > > > > viewer. I haven't used kpdf enough to reach a conclusion on that > > > > > point, but clicking on links within a document that point to > > > > > another section of that same document does not work, so I wind > > > > > up using okular or evince again, where IIRC it does, I think, > > > > > thinker needs more caffeine this time of the morning as it just > > > > > short of 5 am here. > > > > > > > > > > So to get this straight in my ancient head, which of the 3 is > > > > > the TDE preferred pdf utility? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the list of pdf viewer/printers possible > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > > > KPDF is King! > > > > !!!!!!! > > > > > > Well now, if kpdf is king, why isn't it in my menus under office? Or > > > anyplace else. > > > > > > I'm updating a whole bunch now, including a re-install of > > > kpdf-trinity, but its fussing that its not authenticated. ????? > > > > > > And I see I'll have to reboot as twm-trinity is in the list. For > > > some reason, logging out has done a hot reboot here for the last 2 > > > years. > > > > > > And thats 15 minutes just getting everything restarted correctly > > > once I log back in. > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > You may be having problems with the servers due to an issue that was > > discussed by Slavek, et al., in an earlier thread. > > > > Something was said about using Trinity's servers rather than another; > > and I > > > > quote: > > >> For now, you can use mirror on > > >> > > > > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb instead of > > > > http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb > > I'll switch to that if this ever gets done. But for now I'm going to the > garage and see if I can coax an r-pi into running a 75 yo Sheldon lathe > to make about 3/8" of 10-24 threads on the end of a probing finger for a > cnc tool. Clearly Bill, I have too many hobbies at 84 yo myself. ;-) > > Take care now. > > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > Sl�vek > > > > Bill > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett These computers and stuff are a big waste of time sometimes. I keep telling everybody, it's just a passing fad, a bad dream, and pretty soon we will all awaken again. Until then, there is at least TDE. Bill