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Re: [users] Re: [users] Making TDE aware of non-Trinity applications

From: J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@...>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:26:16 -0500
On 2019-03-11 04:12:29 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Sun, 10 Mar 11:16:03 -0500
>
>  J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
> > On 2019-03-10 10:35:32 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > On Sunday 10 March 2019, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > > 	Is there a way to make TDE aware of running non-Trinity applications
> > > > so that they can be resurrected after Logout/Login?  I have at least
> > > > one X11-based application (X2 - The Programmer's Editor) that I use
> > > > extensively, and it would be nice if it could remember across
> > > > Logout/Login events.
> > > > 	I'm wondering if something like a DCOP wrapper might do the job?
> > > >
> > > > Leslie
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Load the application into your autostart dir.
> > > /home/foo/.trinity/autostart
> > > Also, check the program's setting to see if it has an autostart
> > > feature.
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > 	Yes, that would work if I wanted it to start at every login, not just if
> > it was running when I logged out...
> >
> > Leslie
>
> Once upon a time there was a little kingdom where all applications held the
> X11 standards high and the grand master of session management called xsm
> ruled the desktop. In that long forsaken world evil crept in in the form of
> timy little gnomes that insisted the old standard was outdated and a new
> standard needed to be praised. These followers of freedesktop.org brought
> the gnome session manager with them, and it did no good. Then there came
> the merceneries and refugies from the world of funny icons and they brought
> with them the not-invented-here session management. Nowadays the world is
> devided into different religions of session management, some doing good
> (TDE), some falling flat on their belly and calling it progress, but non
> talking to one another 'cause that's deemed to be heresy.
>
> In other words: most gnome applications do not have any sense of session
> management compareable to tde. Most old X11 applications do work with xsm -
> at least you can query them for their state and get the required arguments
> to restore the state. Virtually any java application does not know what
> session management is all about. Firefox et al. do some kind of session
> management on their own, which in most cases does not work. Now you can
> choose ... pestilence, colera, ebola or pocks :-(
>
> Nik

	So I guess you're saying that there's no way to get TDE to notice my X2,
then.

Leslie