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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [partially solve, but the system tray] - P.S.

From: William Morder <doctor_contendo@...>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:03:26 -0700

On Thursday 25 April 2019 16:08:53 E. Liddell wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:37:22 +0200
>
> Uwe Brauer <oub@...> wrote:
> >    > On Thursday 25 April 2019 02:31:57 Uwe Brauer wrote:
> >    >
> >    > Another thing that you can try is to right-click on the system tray
> >    > itself and unlock panels. Somewhere there is a dialog that allows
> >    > you to add an item to the system tray.
> >
> > But only the start icon.
> > Maybe we have a misunderstanding here.
> >
> > Suppose I start tde-networkmanager, say from the command line, it then
> > appears in the system tray, where I can access its configuration, that
> > is to which wifi net I want to connect.
> >
> > I want the same for mathpix, I can start it, but it does not appear in
> > the system tray, and that is why I can use it (via its shortcuts) but
> > not configure it because I cannot access the configuration menu.
>
> In other words, in whatever Ubuntu's default desktop is these days,
> starting the program places an icon in the system tray which provides
> right-click or drag-and-drop functionality that goes beyond starting the
> program, and which you find useful.
>
> >    > Another oddity: I did a quick search using apt-get, and mathpix
> >    > doesn't come up. I am running Devuan Jessie, so maybe it's just not
> >    > in those repositories.
> >
> > It is not you have to install it via snap (so you have to install snap
> > first) once you have installed snap, then
> >
> > sudo snap install mathpix-snipping-tool
> >
> > Will install it.
>
> I checked the developer's website ( mathpix.com ).  The application appears
> to be closed-source.  Snap ( snapcraft.io ) is a distro-hostile "universal"
> installer program that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole, 

Thanks for the heads-up on this one. I installed snap just to test this 
mathpix thingie, but it didn't install any other packages, so no harm done (I 
hope). I finally got my system running GNU/Linux with all free/libre software 
(not sure where TDE stands on this ...), so I wouldn't want to keep it on my 
system. 

I don't mind testing, though, if it might help others. 

Bill

> and the 
> developer's site does not offer the Linux version for download in any other
> format.  Furthermore, the file it does offer is labeled as being for
> Ubuntu, which with people like these who probably don't know much about
> Linux means they only tested it on one version of the distro, and with
> all-default settings.  They will not have tested TDE. They will probably
> not even have heard of TDE.
>
> My guess would be that this thing is calling something that's specific to
> the default Ubuntu desktop rather than following the XDG specification for
> system tray icons (yes, it seems there is one).  At this point, I'd install
> a third desktop environment (possibly XFCE or Lumina) and see if it works
> as expected there.  If it doesn't, complain to mathpix.com that their
> application doesn't follow standards and hasn't been properly tested.  If
> it does, well, we've at least narrowed the problem down to "what do these
> DEs do that TDE doesn't?"
>
> E. Liddell
>
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