On 6/16/19 1:10 PM, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Sunday 16 June 2019 18.11:42 Gene Heskett wrote: >> First, I haven't figured out how to get t-bird to quote, or even to >> reply to a list posting, so this is all by had, I can't even get >> copy/paste to work. >> >> Dr Klepp asked which system: >> >> This is the same old asus box, in the house that ran wheezy for years, >> but now has an uptodate stretch amd64 install.� At least I think its >> uptodate, they've made it almost impossible to run synaptic now, >> >> I ran, late yesterday about 3 full cycles of memtest, no errors. >> >> The main problems withkmail seem to be related to index files getting >> out of whack and I have restored it by stopping kmail, deleting the >> index files for the folder thats crashing, and restarting kmail --sync. >> Leave it alone for an hour or so and it will rebuild the index files >> again.� But its in trouble again if I delete or move a file to the spam >> folder. >> >> And running it from a shell, to get that debugging output, when did >> kmail become dependent on N-M, as pasted from tht shell: >> >> ene@coyote:~$ kmail --sync >> [TDE NM Backend ERROR] >> [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network >> -manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name >> org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files >> [TDE NM Backend ERROR] >> [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network >> -manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name >> org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files >> [TDE NM Backend ERROR] >> [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network >> -manager/network-manager.cpp:1687] >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name >> org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files >> kmail: WARNING: readFolderIds(): Found serial number zero at index 38 in >> folder /home/gene/Mail/.briarpatch.index.ids >> ASSERT: "msn != 0" in >> /build/buildd/tdepim-trinity-14.0.6/kmail/kmmsgdict.cpp (468) >> kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is >> zero in folder coco >> kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is >> zero in folder coco >> gene@coyote:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. >> WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. >> WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. >> WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. >> kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15648 >> kmail: >> kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15649 >> kmail: >> *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) >> [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... >> >> Thats one session of kmail, lasted maybe 10 seconds before I clicked on >> something and crashed it again. >> >> As you can see, its fussing about the coco list folder, which is the >> parent of around 17 subfolders named ack the year of each ones messages. >> Starting year is 2002, goes on to 2018 with the parent folder now >> containing the 2019 messages.� If kmail survives the year, those will >> get moved to a 2019 folder.� If it survives, its being a pita and I am >> just now learning how to use both t-bird and imap. >> >> Do you have any ideas?� I'm all ears.� Thanks Nik. > Hi Gene, > > I have no clue to your problems, all I can say is: > - you seem to have more than one problem on your system > - I've never has trouble with kmail and, when there is a problem with my > indexes, deleting them cures it everytime. > > Between Wheezy and Stretch Debian introduced systemd. I already don't trust > upgrading from one version to another, upgrading from wheezy to stretch does > not seem a good idea to me. So my guess is that the upgrade messed things up. This was not an upgrade, its a 100% fresh install on a new drive. The email corpus was copied over, from the old drive to this one, and it ran roughly trouble free for about a month. > I'm running stretch (fresh install + migration), with sysvinit (although I did > not completely remove systemd) and kmail 1.9.10 from TDE R14.0.6 [Devlopment] > with no problem. Thank you Thierry Cheers, Gene.