On Thursday 20 June 2019 13:25:52 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Thursday 20 June 2019 22.00:06 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Now that wicd decided to not be able to set up my wifi any more, I thoght
> > I might use network-manager + network-manager-tde. As I hve not had this
> > thig running for ~ 5 years, I just tried it out. But I did not get far,
> > the settings dialog did not allow me to save setting. So I ask: has
> > anybody used network-manager-tde in recent times and knows if it works?
> >
> > Nik
>
> Hi Nik,
>
> Your question led me to an interresting discovery:
>
> I have a NetworkManager Applet running in the system tray and it's working.
> It says it's "NetworkManager Applet 1.4.4".
>
> However, if I run Synaptic, network-manager-tde is not installed.
> network-manager and network-manager-gnome are installed.
>
> So I don't really know what to answer...
>
> Thierry

Just my 2 cents' worth here: tdenetworkmanager (NOTE that the pkg name in apt 
is different, network-manager-tde) depends on network-manager. The first is 
tde, the second is (I think) Gnome or maybe now also the new and unimproved 
KDE4/5/etc. You cannot run tdenetworkmanager without also having 
network-manager installed. 

For most of 2018, I was trying to switch from Kubuntu to Debian, and now at 
last to Devuan, trying to find a system that would more or less clone or at 
least imitate my old Kubuntu Hardy 8.04.2 system (the only desktop that I had 
ever loved, until now, that is, with the most recent TDE). 

Part of my problem was trying to find a networkmanager solution, so I 
tried 'em all, and quickly narrowed it down to either tdenetworkmanager or 
wicd). I still prefer a few aspects of wicd; e.g., the network in my building 
has different access points, and for some reason wicd can choose the closest 
or strongest signal (or I can force my preference manually), but 
tdenetworkmanager cannot, and indeed constantly chooses a weaker signal, and 
there is nowhere to change it as in wicd. However, when I was watching top 
the other day, I noticed that gksu was always running; so just for kicks, I 
killed gksu, and wicd crashed! I discovered that it wicd had been running in 
the background, even though I had not started it up. So I uninstalled wicd, 
and now my network is perhaps a little more stable - meaning, I don't keep 
getting bumped offline so much. 

So if it were myself, I would say, Choose one or the other; they both work 
fine, and I prefer one or the other at different moments; but 
tdenetworkmanager requires no root privileges (or at least I don't see 
anything root that's running which shouldn't be there). 

Bill