On Saturday 06 July 2019 20:01:41 David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 07/06/2019 12:30 AM, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
> > I will give the rest of these suggestions a try. I dug down deep into the
> > config files when I ran KDE3, but for the most part I have just copied
> > them over to the appropriate place in TDE, when I can find them.
> > Sometimes they have been changed in such a way that I cannot preserve my
> > settings, because the config files are no longer text files in some
> > instances, but xml and other extensions.
> >
> > In any case, I have managed to restore my panel (i.e., kicker, or
> > kicker-trinity, or maybe it will get renamed ticker?). I'll report my
> > results after I explore these issues further.
>
> That is the horrible unintended consequence of renaming. Once we decided
> against moving to the KDE4 kwin/Qt4, there was no necessity for any further
> renaming and what was done in preparation for that anticipated move should
> have been reverted. Now there is always a question of whether a stray (or
> missing) 't' is the root cause of subtle issue being experienced.
>
> Just image ticker, tate and tonqueror (and the myriad of config setting
> names, and paths, behind the scenes that are implicated)

> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Just to be sure that I wasn't going senile, and had forgot a previous post, I 
did go back to that date you mentioned, and it was about an entirely 
different issue. I also searched for *ksystraycmd*, *kicker* and *panel*, and 
got nothing either with my name on it, or with the same issue as I have 
described in this current thread. 

However ... my mind having been addled by spending too much time in the 
company of "bad influences" with bad habits ... I did wonder and question the 
accuracy of my memories ... ... ... ? In any case, I plead "not guilty" to 
the charge of plagiarism, or even of self-plagiarism. I may sometimes repeat 
my thoughts, but I always use entirely new words, or at least a totally new 
arrangement of old words. 

This issue never came up with the old KDE3, except for the trivial bother 
about ksystraycmd (#1 in my original post), which I can quickly kill in a 
terminal. I would like the shadow icons never to appear at all, and somehow I 
did find a solution in KDE3, but now it eludes me. Whether this has something 
to do with renaming of KDE3 stuff, or changes in the locations or extensions 
of config files, I don't know. 

What really bugs me, though, is this issue with the panel, or kicker. I 
disabled the self-hiding, but what happens is that the hide button gets 
clicked by accident, usually when something bumps my mouse, and the pointer 
just happens to be in the right place at the wrong time. 

An interesting variation of this issue is that sometimes my lower panel 
decides to relocate along the right or left sides of my screen, but with the 
same stubborn refusal to return. 

This would not be a problem, of course, if I could just click and have it come 
back again; but it doesn't. It just stays hidden indefinitely, and no amount 
of clicking, re-clicking, waiting, waiting some more, begging, pleading, 
praying, cursing, cajoling, rebooting, shutting down, logging in to a 
different desktop, etc., etc., ad peninfinitum et nauseam, can make the panel 
come back, until at long last it seems to decide all on its own to reappear. 

I have come to hold my lower panel in a kind of superstitious awe and dread, 
and resolve never to touch it, so long as it is actually working; but every 
once in a while, something happens, and I have this problem all over again. 

>I disabled autohiding almost from the beginneing (KDE2?), 'cause that time 
>(on SuSE) the panel showed strange hehaviour when reappearing. since then I 
>never missed its autohide feature. Oh, I have aded a hotkey to put apps on 
>top of everything, if needed.

>Nik

How did you create that hotkey? (And by the way, I want my icons to appear on 
my panel, not my desktop. I keep my desktops clear, so that I can use them to 
display (mostly) art or other graphics.) Now, if I could have a hotkey to 
restore my panel, that might be useful. 

Bill