On 2019-07-25 23:17:21 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
> On Thursday 25 July 2019 20:40:45 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 July 2019 16:17:27 Mike Bird wrote:
> > > On Thu July 25 2019 10:51:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > gene@coyote:/etc/cron.daily$ tdesudo synaptic
> > > > tdesudo: error while loading shared libraries: libtdecore.so.14:
> > > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > >
> > > Hi Gene,
> > >
> > > I have no idea how you can have TDE installed and running without
> > > one of the most important TDE libraries.  Perhaps a path problem.
> >
> > No, well not intentional. Its looking, or trying to,
> > at /opt/trinity/lib64 but there's only a lib dir. Maybe this explains
> > other stuff thats wonky too.  Like my index problems with kmail a couple
> > months back, etc etc.
> >
> > This was a 32 bit install until I updated to stretch for amd64 on this
> > machine.
> >
> > So how do I convert an uptodate r14 install from 32 bit to 64 bit?
> >
> > here's the trinity.list
> > # Trinity repositories
> > deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/
> > stretch main
> > deb
> > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/de
> >bi an/ stretch main
> >
> > So I don't see an amd64 spec.
> >
> > > Meanwhile have you considered setting a root password?  Requiring
> > > a key instead of a password for ssh root login makes sense.  And
> > > requiring sudo on systems with multiple admins with different
> > > privilege levels makes sense.  But I don't see why you are making
> > > things hard for yourself on your systems but not having a root
> > > password.
> >
> > 1. I'm the only active, warm blooded user 1000.  There are of course
> > other "users" but most of that is just sandboxing.
> >
> > And 2, debian has never been real fond of pw's for root.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> I'm with Gene on part 1 of this question: no root password for a single
> user system. I don't see any real purpose in making oneself log in as root
> to perform administrative tasks; it is enough to use sudo or su, so long as
> the admin is the only user, and the password is very secure. (If somebody
> wants to take 20 million years to brute-force my password, go right ahead,
> as it isn't written down anywhere, and it is really long, and has lots of
> messy characters. Oh, and I also alternate among 4 different complex
> passwords.) Of course, quantum computers will change all this, but maybe by
> then we'll also have some kind of comparable quantum encryption.
>
> However, part 2: tdesu is very useful for getting things done; and it never
> makes me log in as root. To do that, you have to set up your system for
> root logins, so it seems to me that you must have done this either on the
> original installation (one of the questions asked by the installer), or
> maybe you did it under the Trinity Control Center:
>
> TCC / System Administration / Login Manager / Convenience / Miscellaneous /
> Allow Root Login
>
> I never clicked that box, but maybe Gene did.
>
> Bill

	Re 1) since OpenSuSE's philosophy has always been to set and use a root
password, that has always been what I am used to.
	2) Certainly TDEsu (and especially the KDE3 equivalent) used to work
seamlessly, though the last two times I installed Trinity I had to figure out
the necessary steps to defeat its Nanny treatment of the root password issue
(which presumably it has inherited from the Ubuntu philosophy).

Leslie