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Re: [trinity-users] Q: Alternative list background

From: "William Morder via trinity-users" <trinity-users@...>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 02:10:54 -0700

On Monday 30 September 2019 01:11:18 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Mon, 30 Sep 00:54:33 -0700
>
>  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > On Sunday 29 September 2019 23:56:42 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Anno domini 2019 Sun, 29 Sep 14:03:54 -0700
> > >
> > >  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > > > On Sunday 29 September 2019 09:35:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > Hi William!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anno domini 2019 Sun, 29 Sep 08:01:25 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > > > > > On Sunday 29 September 2019 05:35:42 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have konqueror set to a dark background with bright font.
> > > > > > > When I use icon view, things look great. But any list view uses
> > > > > > > the color from "alternative list background" that is set in
> > > > > > > tcontrol, which in my case is light to match the light
> > > > > > > background of all other windows with dark font. This leads to
> > > > > > > light/dark lines in konqueror (which I do not want, I want dark
> > > > > > > background and maybe a slightly lighter alaternating
> > > > > > > background). When I set alternative background to bdark, then
> > > > > > > konqueror looks fine but e.g. ark has zebra stripes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anybody know of a way to make konqueror not use the
> > > > > > > alternative list background?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Nik!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Like yourself (I imagine), I am getting to that age where my old
> > > > > > eyes don't like looking at computer screens with light
> > > > > > backgrounds and dark fonts; I get watery eyes and a headache
> > > > > > after an hour or so.
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem, too :(
> > > > >
> > > > > > In Konqueror, you need to check both <Settings> and
> > > > > > <View/Configure Background>; but it seems like you have already
> > > > > > done that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need to next is found in <TCC/Appearance &
> > > > > > Themes/Colors/Alternate Background in Lists>. (I have attached
> > > > > > two screenshots, one of Konqueror, one of TCC, which ought to be
> > > > > > self-explanatory.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For this last component, you may wish to search for a config
> > > > > > file, with extension .kcsrc (in the old KDE3). The TDE equivalent
> > > > > > for this file has the extension .kksrc, but otherwise they just
> > > > > > reuse the same old KDE3 config.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Small problem here: I forget where it's kept in Trinity. When I
> > > > > > install my system, I now just run a command that copies over all
> > > > > > my settings, the same settings that I've been using since 2006 or
> > > > > > so, in KDE3 and then TDE. (I am doing a search, using Konqueror,
> > > > > > but it's slow.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ** Two possible locations:
> > > > > > /home/<USERNAME>/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys
> > > > > > -or-
> > > > > > /opt/trinity/share/apps/kcmkeys
> > > > > > (However, my desktop seems to obey the config file that resides
> > > > > > in the first location. Somebody else can correct me, if this is
> > > > > > wrong.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you can find this config file and save backups of your
> > > > > > original and your customized settings, you'll save some
> > > > > > headaches, because it's easier than trying to recreate your
> > > > > > preferred appearance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > good luck
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah... there did my colorschemes go ...:
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/NIK-hell.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK DUNKEL.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK GANZ DUNKEL.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK DUNKEL 2.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/thememgr.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK 2012-11-11.kcsrc
> > > > >
> > > > > Moved them over from .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ to
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/ , now I'm back in the
> > > > > game, thank you :) I'm working my way through kmail now, looks like
> > > > > it has some settings I have totally forgotten ... (oh my, as time
> > > > > goes by ...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Which makes me wonder, which of these folders in
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/ are actually in use? Lots of them are from
> > > > > 2011 ... hm ...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, would you mind sharing your colorscheme?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > > Sure, glad to share. Do you mean just the .kksrc config file, or the
> > > > whole shebang?
> > > >
> > > > I've been trying to figure out how to make my color scheme available
> > > > to others, instead of the cookie-cutter default choices, but unless
> > > > somebody draws me a map, I doubt that will happen. With a few broad
> > > > hints, though, I could probably create a theme for TDE & perhaps
> > > > others, like the newer KDEs, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > The Color scheme: you need to save it in TC, and it will be stored in
> > > ~/.trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT.kcsrc
> > >
> > > If you save the whole theme, then it will appear in
> > > ~/.trinity/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT.kth -
> > > basicly a tar.gz with different ending. There's also a folder
> > > ~/.trinity/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT with the
> > > unpacked contents of the theme file. But it looks like the kmail color
> > > config is not part of the theme, nor is the konqueror background image.
> > >
> > > Would be a nice thing to place themes on the trinity webpage or
> > > somewhere in the wiki.
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I was waiting for your response, because I had another detail to add; but
> > you seem to have found it on your own. The color scheme config file also
> > resides in this location:
> > ~/.trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT.kcsrc
> >
> > So now I am sending two versions of my most recent color scheme config,
> > in .kcsrc (which is KDE3) and .kksrc (TDE) config files; they ought to be
> > almost the same, except that the TDE version has been subtly tweaked and
> > retweaked. Otherwise only the extension is changed.
> >
> > If you want to change the color of the lower panel to match, as well,
> > then you need to use something like my source for background, which is an
> > image file of a Zen ink drawing, with lots of space and few details. I'm
> > glad to share that, too, though I have lost the source. (See attachments
> > for my color scheme config files.)
> >
> > Regarding the whole theme, I'll look into it. I've never created a theme
> > before, other than how all the various config files in my system make it
> > look; but I would like to be able to use it myself in the future on other
> > machines, without having to go through so many steps. A tar.gz file, you
> > say? I'll study on how to create a theme.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Thank you! Looks like the *.kksrc contains the keybindings.
>
> Nik

Oh my! It's a good thing one of us actually reads these files. Somehow I got 
the mistaken notion that they were related. Duh. I don't know how that 
happened; I promise that I did read it, once upon a time (just like Moby Dick 
& Gravity's Rainbow), but now I doubt that I can prove it to anybody. 

Well, anyway, the other is what I'm using now, more or less, though I might 
have adjusted this or that slightly. I'll look round for other versions. 

Bill