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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Advice for distro without systemD

From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:05:51 +0200
Anno domini 2019 Sat, 19 Oct 15:09:14 +0200
 deloptes scripsit:
> Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > systemd has nothing to do with "modern" or "better", it's just redhat
> > controlling the market. More SLOC than the linux kernel but just a hand
> > full of developers does not sound like a sane plan - well, if your
> > business model rests on it, it is a sane plan, as a customer I'd run as
> > fast as I could.
> No it is not correct and it has been discussed many many times. IF you read
> the history, you would also understand why the decision to develop systemd
> was taken.
> My tests show that it behaves good on buster, so my plan is to use it on the
> desktop and notebook - for the server it is not relevant.
> I was also sceptic in the beginning and needed some time to understand the
> background and also the background of the conflicting opinions.
> The point is, how I understood it, if you have many subsystems that you want
> to interact with each other, you need a kind of manager. Obviously the init
> and xinitd are not meeting expectations. 
> For me it is important to have alternative and debian provides such. No
> reason to be paranoid about RH. Also I have not seen issues on the RHEL
> servers, I am working with, that could point to systemd.
> I think the main problem is the decision taken by the major distros to
> impose it to the user, without alternative and as usual in too early stage,
> when the problems were massive. Today - I don't know my impression is
> neutral to positive.
> regards 


I'm quite aware of the history and why it has taken this path. And you mind if I object your tests, as mine showed systemd to be quite a PITA. It did not deliver a single point for what it was sold as the only salvation, just on the contrary. Today there's a shism introduced by systemd between "desktop" "server" and "embedded" that make things interestion on linux.


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