E. Liddell wrote: > If you like systemd, then by all means use it, but please don't try to > push others into doing so. �It's as unwelcome as someone coming to this > list to push the current incarnation of KDE. I did not say I like it. I simply understand the arguments on both sides and it is good that debian provides both option for init process (or even more). What I want to say is that it is worth trying and you are also correct - the discussion is not for this list, because TDE has nothing to do with systemd AFAIK. regards