On 10/19/19, deloptes <deloptes@...> wrote: > When you define a problem, you can also find a solution - simply saying "I > don't like it" is not a problem definition. I'm not gonna waste time rehashing why I don't want systemD. Went through something similar when KDE4 came out and was told to get with the programs and "upgrade". A new version is usually not an upgrade. > I've been using Debian with sysv-init, but only because systemd was causing > problems and I needed time to learn it. The concept of keeping systemd and > using init was a very good solution. I think I'll keep it on the server, > but for the desktop, I do not see a reason why you should not use systemd. Yep and other people don't see why we don't use KDE5 or GNOME3 instead of mate/cinnamon. > I guess you are also not driving a car from the 30ies. Nope. I have 2 from the 80s though. Would have no problem with a car that old. I might spent a bit more in gas, but my paid off vehicles don't have a monthly payment & the insurance is cheaper. Always trade offs. Kinda like my almost 15 year old Thinkpad T60p. Does what I need and has the 4x3 screen that makes it easier for me to get stuff done.