Larry Stotler wrote: > I'm not gonna waste time rehashing why I don't want systemD. �Went > through something similar when KDE4 came out and was told to get with > the programs and "upgrade". �A new version is usually not an upgrade. This is exactly the point. I think the time has come that systemd may be considered working without issues. And this is exactly what I want to point out. When you read posts about systemd and the war from 5-6y ago it might be you get wrong impression. I am not advocating for systemd - in fact as stated before I still don't use it (in production), but plan to give it a try when I upgrade to buster next.