Michael composed on 2019-11-13 08:48 (UTC-0600): > From personal experience with MX Linux (non-systemd Debian 9 stretch), I > concur with Nik and Nick (and I'll add nvidia is a twitchy little asshat). > > - Get a working system with nouveau. Or not. Do not confuse the nouveau kernel driver with the nouveau DDX (X and Wayland) driver. The nouveau kernel driver provides the kernel mode setting functionality that competent DDXes depend on. Xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is a reverse-engineered, *optional*, DDX built only for NVidia GPUs. The default DDX is newer technology, automatically used when: 1-it supports any non-ancient (AMD or Intel or NVidia) GPU; 2-KMS is not disabled; and 3-no optional DDX is installed. It can also be explicitly configured to be used even though an applicable optional DDX is available. It's provided by the xserver-org package itself. When in use, modeset(0) will normally be found copiously in Xorg.0.log. The modesetting DDX is in use here by all the NVidia GPUs I have that are new enough for it to support, those newer than approximately 10-12 years of age. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/