On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 12 December 2019 09:43:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > >>>>>> First try to increase the DPI settings. If it works, you are >>>>>> done. (~/.trinity/share/config/startupconfig: >>>>>> kcmfonts_general_forcefontdpi="96") >>>>> >>>>> yeah, that's already set. >>>> >>>> Out of couriosity: what value did you put there and did it change >>>> "something"? >>> >>> it's been 96. >>> >>> I have tried something else (I believe '120', not sure why I picked >>> that) and it improved some things and made other things worse - had >>> me jumping from config file to config file. somehow I've achieved >>> equilibrium with 96. >>> >>> and Firefox is a demon! ended up writing userChrome.css rules but >>> strangely Firefox-esr (68.3.0esr) seems to honor them but Firefox >>> 71.0 seems to ignore them. (I did the magic of trying to force it to >>> read the file, etc.) >> >> Firefox uses GTK3, and that's a pestilence on it's own. > > I am glad to see that someone else is hammering on gtk3 Nik. gtk2 was > 1000% more usefull. gtk3 must be a committee design. lol. it's maddening. the command "fgrep -iR font ~/.trinity/share/config/*" was very helpful. at one point it helped solve the issue I started with, viz. teensy fonts in "TDE Control Module" windows. then, out of the blue, Firefox-bin (v. 71.0) looked ugly - huge fonts in the tabs - and pan newsreader equally grotesque. don't have careful enough notes to infer if I did something to trigger it. not the most welcome reason for procratinating but it is too distracting for work (that's my excuse anyway) so I fooled around and upping DPI to 120 has fixed a lot of it though not sure it will stick the next time I boot out and up. I still can't quite get Firefox to behave; I'm essentially running Firefox-esr. Firefor 71.0 just ignores userChrome.css and I cannot find the magic gtk spell for it. but for a deadline I'm tempted to wipe q4os and just do a Debian (or Devuan) with TDE but that may be misplacing the blame. fjd -- Felmon Davis Pronouns: It / Them / Something