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Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] kmail forever indexing is back

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:49:35 -0500
On Friday 13 December 2019 16:05:18 William Morder via trinity-users 
wrote:

> On Friday 13 December 2019 11:52:09 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > So I picked the largest cur dirs, and using mc have moved about 2
> > years worth of each to an outside of the ~/Mail view of kmail.  And
> > nuked those index files, so it has to rebuild them. Its not done
> > with that yet, but we'll see.  Damn this is getting old.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> The complete corpus of my Kmail (including nearly 20 years of archives
> like yourself) is only about 4.5 gb, and my machine is built out of
> spare parts, most of which are older than Utnapishtim's Flood. And
> while my machine is a little slow sometimes, I never experience
> anything like you keep describing.

I started a year ago with over 12GB but my moving of older stuff out of 
the Mail directory has now reduced the "du -h Mail" to about 4.8GB. I've 
stopped kmail 4 or 5 times, but on the restart, and that nearly always 
crashes once, but before it crashes, maybe 3 seconds elapsed, it has 
pulled all the "index" files out of cache someplace I haven't found.  So 
I nuked ALL the index files 3 times.  Then it crashed about 2-3 seconds 
after startup each time.

A 4th or 5th restart has not crashed, and it updated the dates on ALL 
index files twice, then has shut that off again. The largest remaining 
directory  now is "sent-mail" and its way bigger than any of the rest by 
a factor of at least 2.  So momentarily, its behaving itself. 2 hours? a 
week, a year, the rapture? who knows???

Its a bit like asking, while concrete is being poured, if it will crack?  
Wrong question, not if, its when, if properly formed as a question. :) 

> I hope to get myself an SSD to install as my home directory, which
> ought to speed things up for me, at least.

Haveing done that to the boot drive in one of my milling machines, I can 
testify that an old pentium powered Dell, pulling from the sata SSD, is 
a good 10x faster than when it was loading from spinning rust.  Amazing.

> It is a problem of diminishing returns: you want to have those
> archives available somewhere, to find information that you saved, but
> now the size of those archives is making Kmail unusable. So I would
> say, keep pruning until it stops misbehaving. You will still have
> those old emails available, so long as they are removed to where Kmail
> won't look. They can always be retrieved if you really need them.
>
> Bill

Take care Bill.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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