OK.� Had to reboot with TDM active to uncover this issue. When I issue systemd-analyze blame , I get: systemd-analyze blame Bootup is not yet finished (org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.FinishTimestampMonotonic=0). Please try again later. Hint: Use 'systemctl list-jobs' to see active jobs Of course later never comes since this step continuously hangs. So taking the suggestion, the output from systemctl list-jobs is: JOB UNIT�������������������������������� TYPE� STATE 147 getty@...������������������ start waiting � 2 multi-user.target������������������� start waiting � 1 graphical.target�������������������� start waiting 129 systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service start waiting 105 plymouth-quit-wait.service���������� start running 146 getty.target������������������������ start waiting 6 jobs listed. So, it appears related to plymouth.� Is plymouth used in TDM? Also tried systemd-analyze critical-chain, and get identical output Bootup is not yet finished (org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.FinishTimestampMonotonic=0). Please try again later. Hint: Use 'systemctl list-jobs' to see active jobs On 12/21/19 12:18 PM, James D Freels wrote: > This is a great suggestion.� I will give it a try and report back later. > > On 12/21/19 3:02 AM, Nick Koretsky wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 18:52:35 -0500 >> James D Freels <freelsjd@...> wrote: >> >>> If I boot up under TDM (after running dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity >>> first >>> to initiate TDM into the boot sequence), it starts fine, but >>> continuously hangs in the main console with one of the infamous systemd >>> problems wherein we get the "a startjob is running ..." and it NEVER >>> ends until rebooted.� The TDM session appears to run fine, and I can >>> login and run TDE fine.� However, because the vt1 console is never >>> ending waiting to complete, I have no other VT consoles. Essentially, I >>> have NO virtual consoles at all.� Further, computer resources are >>> always >>> wasted and never ends waiting for the the startup to completely finish. >>> This ONLY happens when booting up with TDM. >>> >>> I can bootup with LXDM or LIGHTDM and this does not happen. Further, I >>> can issue a "systemctl stop lightdm" or "systemctl stop lxdm" >>> (depending >>> on which is running from the boot), then issue a "systemctl start >>> tdm-trinity" and TDM runs fine and there is not a never ending startjob >>> waiting to complete.� So, it appears that TDM does not start in the >>> same >>> order of the boot sequence as LXDM and/or LIGHTDM which is causing this >>> problem. >>> >>> It is at this point, where I need some help in how to fix it, and I >>> suspect that all debian/buster users may have the same issue, but not >>> sure of course.� I hope I can help get his bug fixed before the final >>> release of TDE for buster. >>> >> I dont think its a bug in TDE, this looks like some systemd problem, >> so a >> steps to deal with systemd problems has to be followed. >> Starting with 'systemd-analyze blame'� and 'systemd-analyze >> critical-chain'. >> >>