On Monday 22 June 2020 22:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
> > > > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable
> > > > > > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options in
> > > > > > > > desktop settings to 120 minutes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5
> > > > > > > minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows:
> > > > > > > DPMS (Energy Star):
> > > > > > >   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
> > > > > > >   DPMS is Enabled
> > > > > > >   Monitor is On
> > > > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in which to
> > > > > > > > put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in
> > > > > > > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 		Option	"DPMS"	"off"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user?  That'd at least
> > > > > > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system
> > > > > tray.
> > > >
> > > > Not there.
> > >
> > > I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there
> > > for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
> > >
> > > So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See
> > > attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out
> > > the name.
> > >
> > > Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is
> > > that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
> > >
> > > I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps
> > > tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the
> > > terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only
> > > TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab
> > > > > labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable
> > > > > DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to
> > > > > something that suits you better.
> > > > >
> > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even
> > > > > counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when
> > > > > not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the
> > > > > screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but
> > > > > I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
> > > >
> > > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have
> > > > a cat to walk on keys.  Just me.
> > > >
> > > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively
> > > > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media
> > > > > players do something similar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> >
> > Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance.  Had to get
> > root, and then disabled dpms.  So now we test for the umptieth time.
> > Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently
> > generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But
> > that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the
> > audio whomp.
> >
> > IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!!	No one can see it when it pops
> > up behind the xrandr window.
> >
> > That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action
> > except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window
> > and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if
> > the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
> >
> > Thanks Bill.
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual
> 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting
> it?
>
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Damn, and I thought I read you saying thanks, like you got it working right... 
Oh well. 

As I mentioned before, VLC (I have recently rediscovered) allows you to turn 
off power saving features, screensaver, etc., while you are watching a video. 
I imagine some other media players have similar settings. 

So I was poking round, and found out that you can get to that same 
configuration screen through the Trinity Control Center. (I don't know if 
they are the same, just different ways to get there, but worth checking out 
if you're desperate.) Both also have a tab that says Global Settings, and 
also you are able to create a power management profile. If you haven't done 
so, that would probably be a good idea, then make your chosen settings the 
default. 

Also, you may have two or more choices for a screensaver program; I mean, for 
example, that I use xscreensaver, but there is another which is (I believe) 
KDE3/TDE. I know it can be found in the start menu, but I can't find a 
command for it, or even give a name. It's kscreensaver, or 
kscreensaver-trinity, or maybe tdescreensaver? And there are a couple others 
that you could possibly use, and maybe you have a conflict between two 
programs that both try to control your power settings. 

And then, there are all kinds of battery programs, power monitor stuff, etc. 
The same kind of conflict might come up there, if you have two programs 
competing. In general, I hate all those powersaving features, because they 
always take over my system. It's easier to push a button and shut off a 
monitor, or whatever else you're not using. 

I would take inventory of what you have installed among those kinds of items, 
if nothing else thus far is working for you. Offhand, the most likely 
suspects would seem to be tdepowersave-trinity or klaptopdaemon-trinity, or 
something like that. If you happened to install something meant for laptops, 
and you're on a desktop, that could be causing it. I've had that happen 
before myself. 

You might also watch any kind of logs that might give you more details, or 
something like top (but I only see xscreensaver on my own). Maybe somebody 
else can help you out with a command to run, that will track down the 
culprit? 

I am at a loss right now. I'll let you know if I get any bright ideas. Let's 
see what others can recommend. 

Bill