On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via
> > > > > > trinity-users
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable
> > > > > > > > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options
> > > > > > > > > > in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes.
> > > > > > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q
> > > > > > > > > shows: DPMS (Energy Star):
> > > > > > > > >   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
> > > > > > > > >   DPMS is Enabled
> > > > > > > > >   Monitor is On
> > > > > > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in
> > > > > > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a
> > > > > > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section
> > > > > > > > > > "Monitor":
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 		Option	"DPMS"	"off"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user?  That'd at least
> > > > > > > > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the
> > > > > > > system tray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not there.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting
> > > > > there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See
> > > > > attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find
> > > > > out the name.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it
> > > > > is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE
> > > > > app.
> > > > >
> > > > > I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps
> > > > > tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with
> > > > > the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is
> > > > > the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the
> > > > > > > tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says
> > > > > > > "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power
> > > > > > > saving to something that suits you better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even
> > > > > > > counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead
> > > > > > > when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one
> > > > > > > wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a
> > > > > > > different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out
> > > > > > > at home.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't
> > > > > > have a cat to walk on keys.  Just me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively
> > > > > > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media
> > > > > > > players do something similar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance.  Had to get
> > > > root, and then disabled dpms.  So now we test for the umptieth
> > > > time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that
> > > > apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the
> > > > new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the
> > > > only error warning is the audio whomp.
> > > >
> > > > IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!!	No one can see it when it
> > > > pops up behind the xrandr window.
> > > >
> > > > That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action
> > > > except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its
> > > > window and move it off center so you can see the error message.
> > > > Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue
> > > > its there.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Bill.
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its
> > > usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is
> > > reseting it?
> >
> > I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje
> > next minute
>
> Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by
> disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will
> powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings
> otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to
> whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
>
> This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the
> bovine specie.
>
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >

See attachments for screenshots of my own settings. Please note that I have 
turned off power management completely. 

Bill

Attachments:

• screenshot-power-saver_settings-20200622_2348.jpg
  
• screenshot-global_settings-20200623_2350.jpg