On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:54:13 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via > > > > > trinity-users > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > > > > > > > trinity-users > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to > > > > > > > > > > > enable watching a video. I set all three power > > > > > > > > > > > save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an > > > > > > > > > > xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > > > > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > > > > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > > > > > > > Monitor is On > > > > > > > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > > > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > > > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > > > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at > > > > > > > > > least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > > > > > > > system tray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not there. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting > > > > > > there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch > > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See > > > > > > attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to > > > > > > find out the name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how > > > > > > it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a > > > > > > KDE3/TDE app. > > > > > > > > > > > > I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps > > > > > > tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" > > > > > > with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and > > > > > > that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search > > > > > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to > > > > > > > > the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box > > > > > > > > that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can > > > > > > > > configure power saving to something that suits you > > > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or > > > > > > > > even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor > > > > > > > > instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting > > > > > > > > where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this > > > > > > > > is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene > > > > > > > > hanging out at home.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I > > > > > > > don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > > > > > > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other > > > > > > > > media players do something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to > > > > > get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the > > > > > umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and > > > > > that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually > > > > > accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its > > > > > window so the only error warning is the audio whomp. > > > > > > > > > > IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when > > > > > it pops up behind the xrandr window. > > > > > > > > > > That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other > > > > > action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar > > > > > of its window and move it off center so you can see the error > > > > > message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no > > > > > visual clue its there. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bill. > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > > > And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its > > > > usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell > > > > is reseting it? > > > > > > I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on > > > thje next minute > > > > Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but > > only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its > > enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of > > any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its > > been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 > > seconds or 7.5 minutes. > > > > This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male > > of the bovine specie. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > See attachments for screenshots of my own settings. Please note that I > have turned off power management completely. > > Bill Thats the only thing that worked. Nothing else is even capable of adjusting the time. Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. 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