On 2020-09-01 07:20:27 you wrote: > I would just give up for the present, and rely on wicd, which at least has > always worked pretty well. I hated network-manager when it replaced the plain-ol' way; it was unreliable and (originally at least) started and stopped the connection whenever I logged in/out accounts. (Why would I want my network connection dropped just because I logged out of my account? Maybe there are others active on the system?) Anyway, wicked, like the pre-network-manager way, just works. I'd say you're going in the right direction. Leslie