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Re: [trinity-users] An eMail solution

From: Steven D'Aprano <steve@...>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:10:30 +1000
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 05:32:00PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Wed September 2 2020 16:58:18 Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > That word, "monopoly", I don't think it means what you think it means.
> >
> >
> While agreeing with your definition of monopoly I was initially at a loss
> to explain how Apple has 27.6+8.5+7.5=43.6% email client market share with
> only 13% of the smartphone market and 9.4% of the desktop market.

Litmus measures emails actually received and read, not devices sold.

Global marketshare for iphones is probably around 25%, based on web 

which measures internet usage, not unique visitors or sales. That's not 
far from the Litmus data that suggests 28% of email readers are on 

Based on current sales, iphones are probably around 17% or so. But why 
are you referencing devices sold rather than emails sent when we're 
talking about email?

There are hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, of mostly low-cost 
Android devices used by people who have never sent or received an email 
in their life. Since we're talking about email providers, do you think 
those Androids are relevent?

Litmus' methodology is not unbiased, it's probably heavily skewed to the 
sort of marketing bot that would use Litmus' services. But unless we had 
an all-powerful world government with the power to force everyone to be 
tracked in every email they send and receive, any sample or survey of 
email is going to have some biases.

And different methodologies will measure different things, with 
different biases.

> Then I see that Litmus is analyzing which clients opened their spyware
> emails rather than a scientific survey of the industry.

What's your definition of "a scientific survey"?

How would you do such a scientific survey?

In any case, we're quibbling over relatively minor points here. None of 
the tech giants Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo etc control 
the industry or have a monopoly. But they do have an unhealthy influence 
due to their enormous sizes and ubiquity.

- Apple spends more efforts trying to protect their users' privacy than 
anyone else, even to the point of defying the FBI and US Government, but 
they engage in predatory practices against independent developers and 
run sweat shops where conditions are so bad the factories install 
anti-suicide netting to stop the workers jumping to their deaths.

- Google spends more efforts trying to break people's privacy than 
anyone else, with the possible exception of Facebook, but balances that 
with at least some checks and balances.

- And Facebook is probably the closest thing to unalloyed evil in the 
tech world today, unless you count Amazon as a tech company.

(I hear that Amazon just bought out Hell and sacked the Devil for being 
too soft.)