On Thursday 03 September 2020 10:01:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 07:57:03 -0700
>
>  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for
> > example, I cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either
> > auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi,
> > then look at the available network choices, because my local network has
> > several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and
> > somehow it doesn't always choose the strongest or closest signal. I have
> > an access point right outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
> >
> > But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show
> > me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other
> > stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address
> > changes; and I run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool)
> > and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity
> > then no activity; yet in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse
> > at this point is to reboot.
> >
> > When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems
> > already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and
> > dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all
> > *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back
> > to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I
> > must keep rebooting.
> >
> > How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and
> > keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've
> > search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies
> > and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Just my experience: eiter use wicd (and uninstall network-manager) or use
> networkmanager (and uninstall wicd).
>

Yeah, that's where I think I am headed. I already spent most of the past two 
years using wicd instead of tdenetworkmanager. I just keep hoping that I will 
get a different answer, so I ask the fortune teller to give me another 
reading, and then another ... 

I would be okay with using wicd instead; no problem. But now when I go 
offline, wicd doesn't offer me "options" -- that is, it looks like it hangs 
on, like it's still online, and I cannot get back online without rebooting. 

Maybe I should run wicd as root? I don't like to do that. Usually wicd doesn't 
behave in this manner, which I why I'm bothered. 

I am not in control of my network connection -- as proved by the fact that I 
can't go online/offline or offline/online without rebooting. This is what is 
driving me crazy. 

If anybody is annoyed by my complaints, and failure to resolve my own issues, 
please be patient with me, and remember that I never had any problems with my 
network itself for the past few years. I would bounce between 
tdenetworkmanager and wicd, it's true, but my network connection was stable, 
and I felt in control. I had other problems, yes, but this is different. 

Bill