> On 2020-09-03 09:39:01 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:26:29 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:14:17 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > > > I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual > > > > > > > copy sent to myself, it seemed that it never made it to the > > > > > > > outside > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of > > > > > > > creeping panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it > > > > for > > > > > > > > > its proper place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote: > > > > > > > > Three things: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Like others have already said, you need to enable access by > > > > > > > > unsafe apps in Gmail account settings. See [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 > > > > > > > > username with "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for > > > > > > > > example in > > > > > > > > KMail > > > > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@..." (again, > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients > > > > > > > > (in case you have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me > > > > > > > > without the "recent:" prefix, instead of having access to > > > > > > > > newest emails as they come in, I would only see email in a > > > > > > > > batch every few hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I originally wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for > > > > some, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > news to me, and I never found anything like that among > > > > > > > suggestions > > > > in > > > > > > > > Gmail's > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to for Gmail. > > > > > > > (Doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a try.) At least > > > > > > > I managed > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear all the old emails off the server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused > > > > > > > > by logining in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so > > > > > > > > sometimes I'll be checking my email from Switzerland and 5 > > > > > > > > minutes later I'm checking it > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada. I have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > shifty?]* > > > > > > > > > > > > > pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I have moved > > > > > > > from > > > > my > > > > > > > > > home > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the library, 15 minutes' walk from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en > > > > > > > > [2] https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see > > > > > > > above], suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last > > > > > > > night, then > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > eth0, > > > > > > > > > > > as well, wasn't recognized! How can that be? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a > > > > pain, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > much quicker now than it was when running Jessie); during setup > > > > > > > nothing in > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I tried some > > > > rescue > > > > > > > > > discs and other such tools; again, nothing happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > check > > > > > > > > > > > email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that > > > > > > > they would deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet > > > > > > > connections? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a > > > > > > > wifi antenna > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > a desktop computer, but I built this system out of parts.) As it > > > > > > > turns out, somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > odd, > > > > > > > > > > > because I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > > happen. I can only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > moving > > > > > > > > > > > round the stand that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > pull > > > > > > > > > > > it loose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia > > > > > > > decide the > > > > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > > > > of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or stupidity can > > > > explain > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" > > > > [unmotivated, > > > > > > > > > lazy] or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, > > > > > > > no fixed abode, etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty > > > > > > > or shiftless, or should > > > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > avoid this word altogether? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct > > > > > > answer. Science, dear boy, science. > > > > > > Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > No, that seems unlikely, as I always leave out food and drink for the > > > > > > > > blessed > > > > > > > > > folk, and we have always had a very reciprocal relationship. > > > > > > > > > > I prefer to believe that the Men in Black are after me. That seems a > > > > more > > > > > > > plausible explanation. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > True. Sound and sane reasoning. > > > > > > > > Kate > > > > > > It could be, however, that I have somehow offended themselves through my > > > own ignorance, or because they are known to be whimsical, and even > > > playfully cruel. Or perhaps I did not notice the beckoning glance of some > > > princess of the Sidhe, and the lady (forgetting that I could not actually > > > see her) was offended. > > > > > > This, too, could explain what happened. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > True. Far more likely than you pulled the wire off unaware. > > One must adhere to reality. > > > > 0_o > > > > :) > > > > Kate > > These days, one person's reality is another's fantasy, and vice versa. :-) > > Leslie > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- :)