On Friday 04 September 2020 00:13:19 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Fri, 4 Sep 01:39:16 -0500 > > J Leslie Turriff scripsit: > > On 2020-09-04 01:07:15 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 20:55:40 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > > On 2020-09-03 22:41:23 Michael wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 09:59:50 pm J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > > > > My brother, a long-time windoze user, suggested to me last night > > > > > > that he might give Linux a try. Looking at the Trinity website, > > > > > > I see a plethora of Live Disk images for various distros > > > > > > available; but which one is most likely to give him a stable and > > > > > > versatile experience? He is already somewhat skeptical, having > > > > > > seen my occasional struggles with multimedia issues on my > > > > > > OpenSuSE machine*. (This opportunity will also give me some > > > > > > exposure to Debian-based distros, a probable plus.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Leslie > > > > > > > > > > > > * (OpenSuSE does not seem to think that multimedia is important, > > > > > > and its support is somewhat sketchy compared with home-computer > > > > > > oriented distros). > > > > > > > > > > MX Linux > > > > > https://mxlinux.org/ > > > > > > > > > > Huge dev team that has made it a really easy user experience. It's > > > > > very easy to build a Live USB (Xfce). And the MX Package Installer > > > > > simplifies adding many popular applications. TDE can be added to > > > > > the MXPI > > > > > > > > > > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Install > > > > >atio n_ In structions > > > > > > > > > > If you're interested, I'll ask in the MX forum what the steps would > > > > > be to add TDE to their Live USB. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > Well, I was really looking to use one of the ready-made Trinity > > > > ISOs. It looks like maybe focal is the latest one? (This business of > > > > names instead of release numbers isn't very friendly IMO.) Is it > > > > reasonably stable? I don't want this windoze user to have a bad > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > Leslie > > > > > > Offhand -- and, keeping in mind that your intended audience is a total > > > noobie -- not only a Linux virgin, but also somebody who would never be > > > able to sort through some of the issues we discuss here (my recent > > > networking issues come to mind, or discussions of TDE with at least a > > > half-dozen different OSs -- then I would say [here he pauses for > > > effect], only a couple ready-made TDE Linux discs stand out. > > > > > > AntiX worked quite well, was lightweight, ready from first boot for a > > > new user. It wouldn't be my own choice, because it did some weird > > > things with permissions inside my home folder. Also, it seemed designed > > > for laptop users, and I found it difficult to create custom mount > > > points for my internal hard drives. But for somebody who just wants to > > > get used to running Linux, and to be able to run a good desktop, I > > > would pick this for my #1. > > > > > > Q4OS (I think I got that name right). Again, all the basic ingredients > > > were there, for a first-time Linux user, with the bonus of a good > > > desktop. What I didn't like was almost from the start: I couldn't > > > create my passwords by using weird characters; this distro would only > > > accept alphanumeric passwords. Maybe, if I gave it more of a chance, I > > > would have discovered that it could be changed or circumvented; but I > > > was right away put off. > > > > > > All the others that I've tried so far don't deliver the experience; > > > which is, we would want the user to keep using it, rather than giving > > > up in despair. (And I might have missed a few good ones that are out > > > there, since I haven't been actively looking at new distros, now that I > > > have what I want.) > > > > > > As I say, not what I would choose for myself; but what I believe would > > > keep a new user using Linux and TDE. > > > > > > Bill > > > > So, none of the ones in the ubuntu group? My impression is that that's > > the primary platform the developers work with, and ought to be most > > stable? Poking around on the internet, I see that focal is the latest LTS > > one. I don't much like the password restrictions on Q4OS, and he does > > have several additional drives that would need mounting from time to > > time, so AntiX doesn't sound so good either. > > Stay away anything systemd and GNOME if you want a quiet living. or a linux > beginner it's hard to understand, as that thing is "just" svchost from > windows, sowhat could be wrong with that? That raises the question, why run > from M$ if the pholosophy of M$ is acceptale? > > A beginner always has problems. There is no easy way. So just start as > everybody else, get ditro hopping for some months, see what you like. A lot > of people do not like "choice", they need "guidance". Those better stay > with M$ or the "big distros where you cannot go wrong". Control freaks > sooner or later end some place else. Some even set sail and leave linux > world for the rough coasts of BSD land - and find it quite comfy there :) > > Nik > Stop with your siren songs about BSD land! I cannot afford to get another computer, just so I can run a test machine and learn BSD. Not yet, anyway. Bill