On Monday 14 September 2020 04:31:41 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Mon, 14 Sep 07:21:53 -0400
>
>  BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users scripsit:
> > On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote:
> > > On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users 
wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users 
wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via
> > > > > > tde-users
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > > > > > > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external,
> > > > > > > > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to
> > > > > > > > > enter, in the address bar:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > media:/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as
> > > > > > > > > well as allowing access to various tools and settings for
> > > > > > > > > working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it
> > > > > > > > > often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot
> > > > > > > > > use it at all when running Konqueror as root.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and
> > > > > > > especially when running Kubuntu.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But!  I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive
> > > > > > as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with
> > > > > > media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my 2 cents,
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2 cents is no longer valid.  The auto-mount thing no longer
> > > > > auto-mounts.
> > > > >
> > > > > - This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then.
> > > > > - AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15.
> > > > > - Last rebooted 8/26.
> > > > > - As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount.
> > > > > - Manually mounting works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone know what changed in the last month or so?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these
> > > > problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my
> > > > customized mount points no longer being recognized.
> > >
> > > I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again
> > > for normal user.
> > >
> > > root - Konqueror, throws errors:
> > >
> > > media:/
> > >
> > > The TDE mediamanager is not running.
> > >
> > > During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating
> > > KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
> > > If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or
> > > select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control
> > > panel.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> > I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that.
> >
> > The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had
> > lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to
> > lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly.
>
> What is that "lib64ice6" ? I  don't see it on devuan/beowulf.
>
> For your entertainment: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed - just
> imagine that thing enabled on your systems ...
>
> Nik
>
> > Kate
> >

All this is very interesting, but I wonder what is causing it. Another thing 
that happens in my system recently (in the past few weeks): when I plug in a 
flash drive, suddenly a little bouncing icon for VLC starts up, meaning that 
something has awakened and is loading. 

Problem is, VLC isn't installed on my system. I do install it now and again, 
because it's the only way that I can watch DVDs; other players just don't cut 
it. (For other videos, I tend to use smplayer.) But I have never installed 
VLC in this new system, devuan beowulf. When I look at what's running in top, 
nothing obvious shows up. 

I've been transferring music files to micro SD cards, to put in smartphones 
for myself and a friend; and suddenly Konqueror has started created its own 
custom mount points, ignores fstab, ignores my automount scripts, basically 
is putting out something that looks like original defaults for those devices. 
(Before that, I couldn't get some of these gadgets to mount at all.) 

So here is a sample of the "mount points"* that have been bestowed upon me, 
against my will, by some higher, non-human intelligence: 

/media/Elements_25A1
/media/External_HDD____
/media/Mass_Storage_Device
/media/My_Book_________
/media/<pete>
/media/<user>
/media/USB_Storage

* Note that names in brackets (< >) have been changed to protect the innocent; 
they are not my real mount points. 

I always create my own unique names for mount points; names like Pete and Fred 
(though I am more inventive still ...) are easier to remember than keeping 
straight which drive is Mass_Storage_Device and which is USB_Storage, or 
Elements_25A1 or My_Book_________. (Incidentally, WTF with the weird 
lines???) 

Another thing is, dbus seems to be acting weird, and I don't know enough about 
it to attempt corrections. I already have rather a lot on my plate at the 
moment. 

These developments are all new, since my installation of beowulf/buster; I 
never had anything like this is jessie or before, never even with the old 
KDE3. It reminds me of those *other* DEs or OSs that I try so hard to avoid. 

Somebody please make sense of these developing disasters. 

Bill
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