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[trinity-users] Re: systemd-homed - new thread

From: William Morder via tde-users <ml-migration-agent@...>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:10:55 -0700

On Tuesday 15 September 2020 05:49:11 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Tue, 15 Sep 05:40:58 -0700
>
>  William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
> > On Monday 14 September 2020 10:44:39 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Monday 14 September 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > > >From Nik's previous post: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed
> > > >
> > > > This systemd crap is already bad enough, but homed will eventually
> > > > work its way into other stuff beyond systemd, and then will become
> > > > hard to avoid.
> > > >
> > > > It *sounds* good, being able to move home directories from one
> > > > machine to another without so much fuss; but I already do that,
> > > > pretty much, with only a little fuss.
> > > >
> > > > My suspicion is that somebody's mother is now trying to impose
> > > > conformity on everybody, not just myself, to do our thinking for us;
> > > > because, of course, it is for our own good.
> > > >
> > > > They are trying to get rid of a headache by giving us nightmares
> > > > instead.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Note that I alone am sticking to the discipline of creating a
> > > > completely new thread.
> > >
> > > I don't understand why this is even needed?! I can already move home
> > > directories without a problem. Been doing it for years. I just make
> > > sure to use the same user on the same distro, same etc. Works
> > > perfectly. Or I save key settings (konq bookmarks, FF bms, etc) it's so
> > > easy after that to just retheme to spec.
> > >
> > > There's something suspcious about systemd, especially the way they are
> > > pushing it on everyone. Whatever happened to freedom on free software?
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > Better not to give in to conspiracy-theory thinking here. I believe a
> > simpler proportion is at work.
> >
> > The more money, property or power is involved, the greater the degree of
> > corruption. Who was it that said it? Lord Acton? "Power corrupts.
> > Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
> >
> > Corruption creeps in by small degrees. It starts with somebody offering
> > front-row seats at some special, exclusive event, or just being given
> > "free money" or other unearned bonuses and perks.
> >
> > In all this technophobic conspiracy thinking, there is a simpler
> > principle at work. People who are in business want to know who are their
> > customers. (It makes more sense in a small business, where we meet in
> > person.) When we move into situations where the people in business never
> > actually meet most of their customers, they must find other ways to get
> > to "know" them. At first, I'm sure, they mean well, and only want to
> > serve the needs and wants of people who buy or use their goods and
> > services; but as the company and customer base grows, and as competition
> > also increases, then comes the need for greater control.
> >
> > And now, we the users are not even really exactly "customers" or
> > "clients", but just use what we get for free; and because it's free, of
> > course, we are taught that we should not complain or make demands, but
> > just be grateful.
> >
> > In the end, we, the customers, users, renters (whatever our situation)
> > become the least important part; in fact, an obstacle to doing business.
> > What the business person would prefer, really, is just to withdraw money
> > directly from our accounts, without any interaction from ourselves. But
> > this is only because doing business in person is becoming a rare occasion
> > any more.
>
> Hm ... "social distancing", anybody?
>

I think the "social distancing" has been happening for a long time now; the 
pandemic has just made it much more extreme. 

You and I and everybody else will often choose the non-contact way, if it 
means preserving our peace and quiet, rather than having to go outdoors and 
actually have a conversation with another person. 

The grocer where I buy most of my food, for example: he's a nice guy, always 
says hello, special orders the brand of coffee that I request, and so on; but 
I don't really want to get into a deep conversation with him. I feel sure 
that he would find my own interests to be disturbing, if not outright heresy 
or blasphemy. 

As long as we observe the social niceties, however, he remembers what is 
important to us both, my information doesn't go into a database (so far as I 
know), and harmony is preserved. 

Bill
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