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[trinity-users] Re: systemd-homed - new thread

From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <ml-migration-agent@...>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:20:11 +0200
Anno domini 18:08:23 Tue, 15 Sep 2020 +0200 (CEST)
 Felmon Davis scripsit:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > Better not to give in to conspiracy-theory thinking here. I believe a simpler
> > proportion is at work.
> >
> > The more money, property or power is involved, the greater the degree of
> > corruption. Who was it that said it? Lord Acton? "Power corrupts. Absolute
> > power corrupts absolutely."
> >
> > Corruption creeps in by small degrees. It starts with somebody offering
> > front-row seats at some special, exclusive event, or just being given "free
> > money" or other unearned bonuses and perks.
> >
> > In all this technophobic conspiracy thinking, there is a simpler principle at
> > work. People who are in business want to know who are their customers. (It
> > makes more sense in a small business, where we meet in person.) When we move
> > into situations where the people in business never actually meet most of
> > their customers, they must find other ways to get to "know" them. At first,
> > I'm sure, they mean well, and only want to serve the needs and wants of
> > people who buy or use their goods and services; but as the company and
> > customer base grows, and as competition also increases, then comes the need
> > for greater control.
> >
> > And now, we the users are not even really exactly "customers" or "clients",
> > but just use what we get for free; and because it's free, of course, we are
> > taught that we should not complain or make demands, but just be grateful.
> >
> > In the end, we, the customers, users, renters (whatever our situation) become
> > the least important part; in fact, an obstacle to doing business. What the
> > business person would prefer, really, is just to withdraw money directly from
> > our accounts, without any interaction from ourselves. But this is only
> > because doing business in person is becoming a rare occasion any more.
> >
> > Bill
> there may be truth in some of this but it seems a bit like 
> thread-drift - perhaps retraction of apfelstr�del must be considered; 
> how does this relate to systemd-homed?
> it seems systemd-homed brings precisely the benefit which Kate 
> mentioned is lacking in our usual way of moving 'home'; she wrote:
> "I don't understand why this is even needed?! I can already move home 
> directories without a problem. Been doing it for years. I just make 
> sure to use the same user on the same distro, same etc. Works 
> perfectly. Or I save key settings (konq bookmarks, FF bms, etc) it's 
> so easy after that to just retheme to spec."
> I take it with systemd-homed one doesn't get trapped by shifting UIDs 
> and such. they write (partial quotation),
> "Linux assigns UIDs in the order usernames are registered on a 
> machine. you may get UID 1000 if you are the first user on a laptop 
> and you could get 1001 on another laptop if you are the second user to 
> be registered there. This poses a problem if you move a home directory 
> container from machine A where you're UID 1000 to machine B where you 
> are 1001. systemd-homed solves this by doing a chown -R on the entire 
> home directory if there is a conflict. [...]"
> I once fell athwart of that! not to mention that 'home' gets encrypted.
> why isn't this a net bonus?

There are hords of resons. 
1) security relies on trust into the computer you plug your home in. Well, that's a bad plan to begin with. System is compromised, sor your home is now compromised, too. And becaus of the ease to do, you compromomise all systems you go to that day and the next day ...
2) TRhis problem was solved when? 40 years ago? When was it, NFS+yellowpages was introduced?
3) It does not address at all the problems of different hardware and different OS. You can share your home on any *nix system you like - if you are a bit coutious - without systemd-homed. You cannot any more when you use systemd-homed.
4) WTF encrypted JSON? This is soooo systemd. Remember the "benefits" of binary logfiles?
5) "systemd-homed" looks more like "systemd-owned" than anything else.


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