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Re: [trinity-users] Re: systemd-homed - new thread

From: Felmon Davis <moelmoel2714@...>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:09:27 +0200 (CEST)
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

> Anno domini 18:08:23 Tue, 15 Sep 2020 +0200 (CEST)
> Felmon Davis scripsit:

> [...]
>> I take it with systemd-homed one doesn't get trapped by shifting UIDs
>> and such. they write (partial quotation),
>> "Linux assigns UIDs in the order usernames are registered on a
>> machine. you may get UID 1000 if you are the first user on a laptop
>> and you could get 1001 on another laptop if you are the second user to
>> be registered there. This poses a problem if you move a home directory
>> container from machine A where you're UID 1000 to machine B where you
>> are 1001. systemd-homed solves this by doing a chown -R on the entire
>> home directory if there is a conflict. [...]"
>> I once fell athwart of that! not to mention that 'home' gets encrypted.
>> why isn't this a net bonus?
> There are hords of resons.

many of the reasons you cite go beyond my technical knowledge but I'll 
venture comments on a couple:

> 1) security relies on trust into the computer you plug your home in. 
> Well, that's a bad plan to begin with. System is compromised, sor 
> your home is now compromised, too. And becaus of the ease to do, you 
> compromomise all systems you go to that day and the next day ...

I guess it depends on the intended use-case. if I want to transfer 
'home' to another one of my computers, there is no problem or rather, 
I already had a problem if the computer I'm transferring to is 

and as someone pointed out further down-thread (sorry, I can't find 
the msg!) this may be suitable to a business environment.

> 2) TRhis problem was solved when? 40 years ago? When was it, NFS+yellowpages was introduced?

I have no idea. will have to look this up.


> 3) It does not address at all the problems of different hardware and 
> different OS. You can share your home on any *nix system you like - 
> if you are a bit coutious - without systemd-homed. You cannot any 
> more when you use systemd-homed.

I don't follow. even rsync-ing to another computer may involve some 
fix-ups as Kate expressly indicated. you are saying once installed by 
'systemd-homed' I cannot fix configuration files in 'home'?

> 4) WTF encrypted JSON? This is soooo systemd. Remember the "benefits" of binary logfiles?
> 5) "systemd-homed" looks more like "systemd-owned" than anything else.
> Nik

I don't use systemd or at least didn't until it cropped up in my 
install of MX and 4QOS but I think that's minimalistic.

anyway, I'm not advocating systemd, just wondering what's so terrible 
about systemd-homed.

it sounds like what's terrible about systend-homed is that it's 


Felmon Davis

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