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Re: [trinity-users] Upgrades to TDE 3.5.13 ...

From: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:16:25 -0600
> On Tuesday 06 December 2011 16:27:46 Brad Rogers wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:22:02 +0000
>> Lisi <lisi.reisz@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Lisi,
>>
>> > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 12:08:02 Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
>> > > And that could push users away from TDE...
>> >
>> > Why does that matter?  No-one is forcing anyone to use TDE.  Surely,
>>
>> One word;  Reputation.
>>
>> > if someone is unhappy with TDE, leaving is the obvious thing to do.
>>
>> Certainly, but the "bad press" that's likely to be associated with the
>> departure cannot do TDE any good.  You can picture the scene, I'm sure:-
>>
>> "I used to use $projectname (it's not just TDE that's affected,
>> obviously), but there were some really niggling bugs that the developers
>> just didn't want to fix."
>>
>> Whether it's true that developers didn't want to fix them is irrelevant,
>> the bad press will gain $projectname a reputation for being buggy
>> and/or not listening to its users.  Like Gnome.
>
> I take your point.  But does that mean that the people who are
> dissatisfied
> must hold sway, whatever other people think, so that they will not moan?
> We,
> surely, almost by definition, are mostly people who are dissatisfied with
> KDE4.  We were not forced to use it - tho', I confess, some people did try
> to
> force us - but they didn't succeed did they? ;-)
>
> And releasing too early didn't exactly help KDE4 did it?
>
> I think that Trinity's great problem is that it has simply got too little
> man(or woman, of course!)power.  Giving those valiantly working away
> something extra to do is not going to help.
>
> Lisi
>

This is correct.  I have stated before that I agree in principle with
SRUs, but that I personally don't have the time to generate them.  If the
distribution maintainers have the time and desire to generate
distribution-specific SRUs based on patches on Bugzilla there is nothing
standing in their way.

Until we get a team dedicated to handling nothing but bug repair and
patching/testing, I don't think official source SRUs are prudent. 
Instead, I'd like to suggest a list of suggested cherry-picked patches
from the latest dvelopment HEAD.  This could go on the Wiki and would
allow the distribution maintainers to easily pull those patches they deem
critical for their userbase out of the list of patches that we suggest.

Tim