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Re: [trinity-users] Please use version numbers!

From: Kristopher John Gamrat <chaotickjg@...>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:08:54 -0500
On Sunday 19 February 2012 07:52:37 am leee wrote:
> On Saturday 18 February 2012 18:38:00 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
> > On Saturday 18 February 2012 06:16:07 am Lisi wrote:
> > > On Saturday 18 February 2012 10:14:17 Werner Joss wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 18 February 2012 11:07:56 Lisi wrote:
> > > > > I am baffled by this. �Ubuntu _has_ got version numbers. �9.04, 9.10,
> > > > > 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 etc., and they go in numerical order. �The
> > > > > fact that they also tell you when exactly that version was released
> > > > > doesn't detract from that.
> > > > >
> > > > > And Trinity certainly has numbers (in numerical order). �So as I say,
> > > > > I am unable to understand the problem.....
> > > >
> > > > i think the OP had just the problem to always remember the correct
> > > > relation between code name and version number, e.g. what was exactly
> > > > maverick ? (10.04, 10.10 ?)
> > > > - i confirm having this problem also, from time to time :)
> > >
> > > Me too!    They are even more silly than teh Debian ones - and taht takes
> > > some doing!!
> > >
> > > But the OP actually said:
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > > Now, i have to cope with childish names. Even the download page for
> > > Ubuntu uses version numbers, so it�s not even possible for me to decide
> > > which is which.
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > And PLEASE, use version numbers in the future!
> > > </quote>
> >
> > Looking at the main page at trinitydesktop.org, you see "Debian Lenny" and
> > "Debian Squeeze", not "Debian 5.0" and "Debian 6.0". This may be what the
> > OP was referring to. The only reason I know the difference is because I
> > have been using Debian for just under a year. If I hadn't done my research
> > on Debian beforehand, I'd have no inkling of an idea what "Squeeze" and
> > "Lenny" referred to. Since I'm not an Ubuntu user, I have not been keeping
> > track of their code names, so I could not tell you the difference between
> > "Karmic" and "Lucid" except that they are two different versions of Ubuntu,
> > but I do not know what those versions are.
> 
> I suspect that the reason that Ubuntu follows the Debian idea of using names 
> as the primary way to identify each release, as opposed to version numbers, 
> is because it's quite a good idea and it's a good idea because it makes it 
> easy to upgrade, or not, from one release to the next.

Personally, I don't think it's a good idea. As already mentioned, it's hard to tell which release is newer based on the names, whereas it is obvious that 5.0 is newer than 4.0 but older than 6.0. Even the month.year thing that Ubuntu uses as the version number is easier to follow than their names. As I said, since I'm not an Ubuntu user, I couldn't tell you which name goes to which release.

Also, I'd like to point out that it is easier to type (or at least less to type) 6.0 than it is to type "Squeeze". Also, if I were to walk up to a Linux techie in real life and say, "I need help with Debian Squeeze," and the person isn't quite awake yet and doesn't use Debian full time, they might seriously misinterpret that. If I instead said, "I need help with Debian 6.0," the person wouldn't get confused as easily since I'm obviously not trying to get him to "Squeeze Debian" (or, in other words, Strangle Debian ;-) ).

-- 
Kris Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/

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