I saw some recent updates in https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~slavek-banko/+archive/axis I tried again in my Squeeze "test" install with 3.5.13 a full dist-upgrade with that repo enabled, around 120MB. Made sure to close kdm first. The previous kdesu problems seem fixed. Kaffeine too is working fine, including DVB (I read there was a bug where it doesn't override the screensaver, not an issue here as I don't use screensavers) So far, no problems whatsoever; many 3.5.13 bugs seem fixed. Looks good enough to do the same on my main machine. There seems little publicity at the moment, no mention at http://www.trinitydesktop.org A 3.5.13 deb-packaged updates repo is just marvelous for those of us who use Trinity as main DE but are affected by R13 bugs. David