On Friday 29 June 2012 04:06:49 Timothy Pearson wrote: > > On 06/28/2012 06:08 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > >> Lou Gogan wrote: > >> > Is there a different installation page with instructions of how to > >> > >> obtain a > >> > >> > working version of trinity? Is there a working version? > >> > >> I strongly suggest Slavek's packages. I have deployed them on all of my > >> systems with great success. > > > > Part of his point was that the installation instructions on the website > > do not result in a working system. This is something we talked about > > here several months ago, and nothing has been done about it. Repeating > > what I said then, how many people do you think have found the website, > > tried to install Trinity according to the instructions there, ended up > > with a hopelessly buggy system and a lot of time wasted, and will never > > try Trinity > > again? Lou is one of a tiny minority who have come to the mailing list > > looking for help -- many, many more simply go away quietly. > > <snip> > > I was not actually aware of the magnitude of the problem until just now, > as I tend to use the nightly builds on new installs. > > Do we actually have a procedure written anywhere that results in > successful installation on Ubuntu? People have access to the Wiki and I > would be more than willing to redirect the Ubuntu/Debian install > instructions to a Wiki page until R14 is released; would someone who has > managed to install TDE successfully be willing to write a brief set of > instructions for the Wiki? > > I did not originally intend R14 to take so long to make it to release. In > fact I was not even planning for a 3.5.13 SRU, but enough bugs were > discovered over time (some original KDE bugs as well) to significantly > delay the next release. This is obviously suboptimal and it looks like > some things will need to be partially fixed in the interim. > > Tim Referring people to a wiki for installation instructions sounds like a good idea and would reduce any maintenance overhead for the web site. Although there's the potential problem with abuse on 'open' wikis the Trinity 'community' is pretty good and, I think, up to the task of keeping it straight and level. +1 vote for this idea. LeeE