Re flash: I get better results using flash-plugin-nonfree (11.2 r202) and iceweasel (12.0) from Debian Backports. Flash was always a problem for Linux users, thanks proprietary software vendors. A lot depends on hardware, graphics and cpu. Better on a core2 than single. Re exegnulinux_3.3_preview4.iso: No it's not very well tested but at least nobody found anything wrong yet! It is probably already better than 3.2. It works in live mode and installs fine. Re tde-lite-meta: I made one (first scrappy attempt) http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/apt/pool/main/t/tde-lite-dzz/tde-lite-dzz_0.0.1+1_all.deb but maybe not much use except as an example, you probably don't want an extra repo enabled; obviously if not and you do dpkg -i the deps (core tde packages) can't be handled by apt. Maybe till an "official" deb meta is made a simple bash script is better, e.g. #!/bin/bash apt-get update for i in $(cat packagelist); do apt-get -y --force-yes install $i; done I will revisit that later and post back. If anyone wants to unpack my deb and see the dep list, or rearrange it, or got a better idea, good. Good to see kdesudo and kpackage out of kaffeine recommends. Other bloat issues are timidity, freepats (recommends of soundkonverter?) but not looked in-depth at that yet. Re: the original thread posting "is there a version of trinity that actually works"? Yes. TDE 3.5.13+axis updates on Debian Squeeze, installed out of X from a selected package list. My current "lite" package list (gives a very function system, it's what I use in exegnu): kdebase-trinity amarok-trinity ark-trinity gwenview-trinity gtk-qt-engine-trinity k3b-trinity k3b-data-trinity kaddressbook-trinity kaffeine-trinity kcalc-trinity karm-trinity kate-plugins-trinity kcoloredit-trinity kcron-trinity kde-core-trinity kde-i18n-engb-trinity kde-i18n-es-trinity kde-style-qtcurve-trinity kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-trinity kdeartwork-trinity kdeartwork-emoticons-trinity kdeartwork-misc-trinity kdeartwork-style-trinity kdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity kdeartwork-theme-window-trinity kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity kdeeject-trinity kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-trinity kdelibs-trinity kdelibs-data-trinity kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins-trinity kdf-trinity kdiff3-trinity kdirstat-trinity kdm-trinity libkcddb1-trinity libtqt3-integration-trinity kregexpeditor-trinity kget-trinity kghostview-trinity kicker-applets-trinity kio-locate-trinity kipi-plugins-trinity kmix-trinity knemo-trinity knotes-trinity konq-plugins-trinity konqueror-trinity konversation-trinity kpdf-trinity kpowersave-trinity kscreensaver-trinity kscreensaver-xsavers-trinity ksensors-trinity ksnapshot-trinity ksplash-engine-moodin-trinity ksvg-trinity ktorrent-trinity kuser-trinity kwin-style-crystal-trinity soundkonverter-trinity