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Re: [trinity-users] [sort of OT] Trinity etc. are damaging Linux

From: Brad Alexander <storm16@...>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:59:05 -0400
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Bryan Baldwin <bryan@...> wrote:
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> On 07/23/2012 01:38 AM, Brad Alexander wrote:
>> Some people just take whatever Redmond or Cupertino (or London,
>> for that matter) shove at them and adapt. What Lisi referred to as
>> the "mavericks" will go to longer lengths to maintain the
>> computing environment that is comfortable for them. As I have said
>> on IRC before, "I'm not going to change my computing paradigm so
>> that some guy in a suit, or some guy in a turtle neck, or some guy
>> who's been to space can make a buck." (Because forcing unity on
>> users puts Canonical in the same category as the others...)
> I can't follow you to Canonical with this example, because of the
> multiplicity of environments available to Ubuntu. You don't _have_ to
> take Unity, afaict. I avoid Ubuntu like AIDS, but it is largely made
> of free software. You can change it, you can remove the non-free bits
> and call it gNewSense.

The reason I include Canonical because they have systematically
eliminated desktops other than Unity. Yes, the others are available,
but I credit that more to Debian than Ubuntu. Canonical developed
Unity in answer to Gnome 3, as well as dropping support for KDE (which
was picked up by Blue Systems). Out of the box, Unity is now the only
option under Ubuntu. Yes, you can install the other desktops, but that
is, IMHO, a result of the Open Source underpinnings of the OS, rather
than a conscious decision of Canonical's. I may be doing them a
disservice in this respect, but unlike Mate and Cinnamon (and the
other desktops available for Linux), Unity has never been made
available to other distros. Mate and Cinnamon, OTOH, are available on
several distros.

> You can't do those things with Microsoft or Apple.
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