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Re: [trinity-users] OpenSUSE 12.2 Step by Step Installation

From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@...>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:06:07 -0500
On 2012-11-28 22:28 (GMT+0100) François ANDRIOT composed:

> Felix Miata composed:

>> I removed all remaining *kde*3* except the following:

>>     kde-susetranslations-12.1-14.1.1.noarch
>>     kde3-gtk-qt-engine-0.8svn20071009-58.2.x86_64
>>     kdeartwork3-3.5.10-92.2.x86_64
>>     kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE-11.3-72.1.x86_64

>> and rebooted into TDE greeter. It would have been nice if it had
>> offered to import settings from ~/.kde, but it seems to be working OK.

> OK this is what I thought. KDE3 conflicts with TDE.
> Until we find a trick, we cannot use both on the same computer.

I'm having a hard time imagining a need for both, as long as equivalent 
packages (that I use ;-) ) remain available on TDE for all available on KDE3.

> You can remove "kdeartwork3" and install "trinity-tdeartwork".

Yikes! Adding this one pulled in 11 others.

> You can remove "kde3-gtk-qt-engine" and install "trinity-qt-engine".

"No provider of 'trinity-qt-engine' found (but trinity-gtk-qt-engine is now 

> About the 2 other packages, I don't know if they are specific to Suse,
> specific to KDE3, or both.
> But they are not needed (and not even used) by Trinity, so they are
> useless to you. You'd better remove them to avoid other strange
> side-effects.

They're gone now.

>> Keyboard retains the same inane 660msec default delay as KDE always
>> has. cf.

> Nice find. It could be a Trinity enhancement, you should fill a bug
> report for it.

> I'm glad it finally works for you :-)

Not completely yet.

1-Init 3 from runlevel 5 fails to stop kdm, same as with KDE3 in 12.2. rcxdm 
stop and /etc/init.d/xdm stop don't stop it either.

2-startx instead of TDE starts icewm. Comments in 
/etc/sysconfig/windowmanager fail to say to make TDE the DEFAULT_WM it needs 
to be set to tde.

3-cnf starttde produces nothing. cnf startkde produces no hits in 
/opt/trinity/* or from TDE repo.

> I hope you will enjoy Trinity.

I can't imagine it not. KDE3 is weak on maintenance resources. KDE4 is hopeless:

This exercise was on my backup box to the system I run 24/7, trying to figure 
out whether an upgrade from 11.4 to 12.2 is doable. The bonus upgrade to TDE 
I hope will end the nonsense that updated KDE3 packages are inexplicably 
added to the mirrors practically every day.

In the meantime, I have at least a half dozen 12.2 systems, at least half of 
which have KDE3 instead of KDE4. Over time I'll probably convert at least 3 
to TDE, but the next step will be a fresh minimal X with TDE on a box whose 
HD died week before last, which is waiting for me to put in the new one UPS 
brought me today.
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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