On Monday 25 February 2013 14:12:08 C W wrote: > It makes the TDE community look bad (and certainly not inviting to growing > our ranks) when it is so popular to be hostile towards anything other than > TDE. Who is hostile to anything other than TDE?? As one of the "hostile" people, I am not hostile to anything other than TDE. I _am_ hostile to destroying the essence of TDE. I have also been convinced during this discussion that TDE can't be allowed to fragment to the extent that there are umpteen different DEs, all called TDE. Alexandre's version may well be exactly what some people want. I would not deny that. But it may still not actually be TDE. TDE is what it is because some highly competent people wanted to continue using KDE3 and did not want to use KDE4. TDE with parts of KDE4 is not TDE as originally conceived. Lisi