On Wed September 17 2014 17:24:57 David Hare wrote:
> Do TDE users want freedom (as much as is possible) from systemd?

Since '82 we have used many unices, distros, and desktops but the
last several years we have exclusively used Debian Stable and TDE
and we have been very happy with them.

We are very cautious of systemd and intend to minimize contact with
it even if that means switching OS, distro, or desktop.

It's not the spaghetti design or the mediocre code but rather the
leverage systemd exerts to churn software projects and distros.

Volunteers of course choose for themselves where they wish to spend
their time but to my mind there are far more useful things that can
be done than trying to keep software in sync with systemd's whims.

Mike Bird