On Thursday 18 September 2014 07:35:44 Michael . wrote:
> You are correct the vote was 4-4, 4 of the votes were employees of
> Canonical who created Upstart and upstart got 4 votes from those very same
> people. The other 4 votes had no ties at all to another distro or a pay
> packet.

Thank you.  That is very interesting information.  I didn't know that, and 
didn't know to ask the question.  It puts a very different complexion on the 
nearness of the vote.

Mark Shuttleworth has accepted the "defeat".
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316

Thank you David, for putting your money where your mouth is.  Most opponents 
of systemd, anyhow on the Debian list, rant and rave and *do* nothing.  Not 
that there are many of them.

May I forward/copy your email to the Debian list?

Lisi