On 18/09/14 07:56, Sl�vek Banko wrote:

> All this support is handled entirely via dbus calls - without linking systemd
> libraries. Thanks to this integration with systemd is used, only if systemd
> is installed. The user will choose whether to install systemd or not.
>
> We plans to use the same method to solve multi-seat support with systemd.
> Overall, the intention is to be able to use systemd, where this is
> appropriate, but not to be dependent on it.

Thanks Sl�vek.. that gives some hope (although we know TDE cannot 
influence upstream and mainstream)

Many are still unaware of the true nature of systemd and believe it is 
merely a replacement init system. This is direct from the "horse's mouth":

http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html

Make up your own minds whether you want to support and use that without 
choice.. many good people, who have no inclination to emotional rant, 
already have.

http://igurublog.wordpress.com/

Others either accept it or (with increasing difficulty) try to find 
workarounds.

David