On Thu September 18 2014 09:26:36 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> So why did Debian dismiss it before the discussion ever got to TC? 
> Question, not rhetorical retort.  If systemd and Upstart are both
> undesirable, and the TC only considered Upstart and systemd, then the
> narrowness or otherwise of the voting margin is irrelevant.

There are benefits to declarative startup - although systemd
does it badly and things like keyscripts don't work.

I expect sysvinit will eventually be replaced by something
actually better, but neither systemd nor upstart is it.

The Debian TC may be great coders but whether through bias
or naïveté they failed to consider the implications of
allowing Redhat (or Canonical) to churn Debian.

I'm not sure this discussion is really on-topic for this list,
though, as TDE (unlike Debian) has done it right - supporting
systemd where available but not depending on it.

Mike Bird