On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 05:23:26AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Following is a small sample of styles from some high profile sites > that refutes your assertion. For every major site you find that does > not size P text either directly or via cascade in relative units, [...] Um, I think this is getting way off-topic for this list. Off-topic or not, there's one thing that I find just too astonishing to let stand: > In case you haven't noticed, > Google'w home page weighs in at over 1GB if saved as web page complete > in Gecko. About 10% of it is the HTML page. Most of the rest is > insufferably complex CSS and JS. Surely not. That would imply that in order to use Google via HTTPS, you would have to download 1GB *each and every time* you visited the site. (Browsers don't cache https pages.) On my system, that would take about 1.5 hours each time. I'm sure I would have noticed. 10% of 1GB is just over 100 MB, I'm pretty confident that Google's web page is not that big: [steve@ando ~]$ wget --user-agent "Firefox 31 (Mozilla compatible)" --no-check-certificate https://www.google.com --2014-10-18 21:43:56-- https://www.google.com/ Resolving www.google.com... 74.125.237.179, 74.125.237.180, 74.125.237.176, ... Connecting to www.google.com|74.125.237.179|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=bURCVMSHDauN8Qflz4FI [following] --2014-10-18 21:44:00-- https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=bURCVMSHDauN8Qflz4FI Resolving www.google.com.au... 74.125.237.175, 74.125.237.183, 74.125.237.184, ... Connecting to www.google.com.au|74.125.237.175|:443... connected. WARNING: certificate common name `google.com' doesn't match requested host name `www.google.com.au'. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: `index.html?gfe_rd=cr&ei=bURCVMSHDauN8Qflz4FI' [ <=> ] 64,679 89.7K/s in 0.7s 2014-10-18 21:44:01 (89.7 KB/s) - `index.html?gfe_rd=cr&ei=bURCVMSHDauN8Qflz4FI' saved [64679] [steve@ando ~]$ du -h index.html\?gfe_rd\=cr\&ei\=bURCVMSHDauN8Qflz4FI 68K index.html?gfe_rd=cr&ei=bURCVMSHDauN8Qflz4FI Anyway, can we get back to the topic of making the TDE website do a better job of selling TDE? -- Steven