Steven D'Aprano composed on 2014-10-18 21:50 (UTC+1100): > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 05:23:26AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> In case you haven't noticed, >> Google'w home page weighs in at over 1GB if saved as web page complete >> in Gecko. About 10% of it is the HTML page. Most of the rest is >> insufferably complex CSS and JS. > Surely not. That would imply that in order to use Google via HTTPS, you > would have to download 1GB *each and every time* you visited the site. > (Browsers don't cache https pages.) On my system, that would take about > 1.5 hours each time. I'm sure I would have noticed. > 10% of 1GB is just over 100 MB, I'm pretty confident that Google's web > page is not that big: 1GB was a typo. It should have been 1MB. Details: HTML file: 107358 bytes 11 Other files: 971940 bytes Total saved to disk: 1079298 bytes Other files: 46743 Oct 18 10:56 416924f9b7e7a933.js 138422 Oct 18 10:56 cbgapi.loaded_0 1590 Oct 18 10:56 frame.html 2286 Oct 18 10:56 googleplus_color_33-d28e37b6be3328c1aab7a37fa108901f.png 14022 Oct 18 10:56 logo11w.png 366890 Oct 18 10:56 rsACT90oFFNUT-etJuf5ZjYTr2wdpZnggskA 118554 Oct 18 10:56 rsACT90oFFNUT-etJuf5ZjYTr2wdpZnggskA_002 13556 Oct 18 10:56 rsAItRSTNWHvMePXFuCj5Lvjl9zTImv2dfvA.css 83655 Oct 18 10:56 rsAItRSTO9MCciJDIuur7K3Vtmjxbw2iu2lA 160696 Oct 18 10:56 rsAItRSTOd4SEnseBY4S0h3Jnva5nL7YmxJQ 25526 Oct 18 10:56 rsAItRSTOd4SEnseBY4S0h3Jnva5nL7YmxJQ_002 The point of all that is to show what an ad hoc group of contributors wouldn't be able to manage even if they wanted to, an example of complications to avoid, how bad bad can get behind the face of a simple looking page like Google's home page. > Anyway, can we get back to the topic of making the TDE website do a > better job of selling TDE? Nobody's stopping anybody that I can see. My prior post, long as it was, amounted to simplification of both HTML and CSS in the process of reducing whitespace and increasing proportional retention across varying viewport contexts. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/