Am Sonntag, 16. November 2014 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > On Sunday 16 November 2014 09:23:30 Michael . wrote: > > Debian's future is not in doubt. > > I find it sad that things like this are being spread. > > I agree with Michael. Debian's future is not in any doubt. Well, not what I see here. From companies point of view there's no point in taking debian any more, it's basicly Redhat. The graybeards I'm in contact are on the verge to leaving debian to FreeBSD. Even if only 10% leave, it'll be the sysadmins leaving, and that's no good sign, as they won't come back. Debian is cutting ist's roots, no matter what will come out of the GR, harm is done. Don't get fooled, the "year of the linux desktop" is not going to happen, as it already happend with android. No second chance there. BTW, TDE could get a goot stand on FreeBSD, as I see it. GNOME3 and derivatives already show featurerott on BSD, e.g. thunar automounter stopped working some time ago. KDE4 beeing the only competetor in BSD land :-) Nik > > > On 16 November 2014 15:48, Robert Peters <robertpeters9@...> wrote: > > > On 15 November 2014 19:51, David Hare <davidahare@...> wrote: > > > > Just note, this is Debian "testing".. things are likely to be broken. I > > > > don't know and can't predict what. > > > > > > > > The future of Debian itself is in doubt (systemd fiasco, which affects > > > > > > all > > > > > > > other distros) > > > > > > > > At the moment, TDE is gaining ground as just about the only > > > > > > fully-functional > > > > > > > DE out there for those of us who do not wish to run systemd. The only > > > > > > other > > > > > > > alternative seems to be openbox (a WM rather than a DE). > > > > > > > > Here, a recompiled dbus has removed all systemd dependencies (although > > > > I dont use the full TDE "meta"). I just got back "suspend" in TDE > > > > logout thanks to consolekit2. > > > > > > > > I really don't have a clue about skype. > > > > > > From reading various reports on systemd, I like the idea of a DE that > > > doesn't use it. Given the uncertainty about Debian, I might go to > > > using Gentoo, or look into the feasibility of using TDE in one of the > > > BSDs. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > trinity-users-unsubscribe@... > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > trinity-users-help@... > > > Read list messages on the web archive: > > > http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > > > Please remember not to top-post: > > > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@... > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.