On Sunday 16 November 2014 10.40:46 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 16 November 2014 09:23:30 Michael . wrote: > > Debian's future is not in doubt. > > I find it sad that things like this are being spread. > > I agree with Michael. Debian's future is not in any doubt. > > Lisi As long as there is a way to compile a "fork" without systemd, I guess there will be a choice. I find it a little worrying that applications depend on systemd, as that restricts the choice. I am working with openSuSE (that uses systemd) and, from a users point of view, I did not (yet?) see any problem. For Jessie I'll wait until it becomes "stable". Thierry