Hi Guys, Apologies for top post ! I get these messages quite regularly ! Now I just ignore them since most of the posts refered to I seem to get anyway. Best Regards: Baron On Friday 21 November 2014 09:12:41 Ilya Dogolazky wrote: > Hi Timothy! > > 2014-11-06 17:43 GMT+02:00 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@...>: > > During this window I will (in addition to many other changes) be > > addressing the sporadic list delivery issues to specific > > addresses relating to DKIM implementation on certain service > > providers. It is hoped that these upgrades will stabilize the > > lists somewhat and make them easier to use. > > Was your maintenance work in the beginning of November related to > sporadic "bouncing message" issue? > > Sometimes messages from the list can't be delivered to my gmail > account, and I think it doesn't have to do with my account > specifically. Anyway, see the "bouncing warning" as an example > below. I receiving such warnings quite often. If it's a problem on > the mailing list side, then I could provide more information, not > hesitate to ask. > > -- Ilya > > Here is the "warning" I received today: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <trinity-users-help@...> > Date: 2014-11-21 2:34 GMT+02:00 > Subject: warning from trinity-users@... > To: ilya.dogolazky@... > > > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the > trinity-users@... mailing list. > > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached > at trinity-users-owner@.... > > > Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to > have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce > message I received. > > If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe > bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing > list, without further notice. > > Copies of these messages may be in the archive. > > To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per > request), send an empty message to: > <trinity-users-get.123_145@...> > > To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so > messages, send an empty message to: > <trinity-users-index@...> > > Here are the message numbers: > > 6970 > 6999 > > --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. > > Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON@...> > Received: (qmail 8614 invoked by uid 64014); 8 Nov 2014 15:27:27 > -0600 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) > id 4A46664059F; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:27:27 -0600 (CST) > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:27:27 -0600 (CST) > From: MAILER-DAEMON@... (Mail Delivery > System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > To: > trinity-users-return-6970-ilya.dogolazky=gmail.com@... >puting.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="184B2640507.1415482047/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Message-Id: <20141108212727.4A46664059F@...> > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message. > > --184B2640507.1415482047/mail.pearsoncomputing.net > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > <ilya.dogolazky@...>: host > gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.201.26] said: 550-5.7.1 > Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to > domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact administrator of > yahoo.com domain if 550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please > visit 550-5.7.1 http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to > learn about DMARC 550 5.7.1 initiative. hz7si14466145icc.64 - gsmtp > (in reply to end of DATA command) > > --184B2640507.1415482047/mail.pearsoncomputing.net > Content-Description: Delivery report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 184B2640507 > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; > trinity-users-return-6970-ilya.dogolazky=gmail.com@... >puting.net Arrival-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:27:26 -0600 (CST) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; ilya.dogolazky@... > Original-Recipient: rfc822;ilya.dogolazky@... > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from > yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. > Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if 550-5.7.1 this > was a legitimate mail. Please visit 550-5.7.1 > http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about DMARC > 550 5.7.1 initiative. hz7si14466145icc.64 - gsmtp > > --184B2640507.1415482047/mail.pearsoncomputing.net > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Return-Path: > <trinity-users-return-6970-ilya.dogolazky=gmail.com@... >mputing.net> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id > 184B2640507 for <ilya.dogolazky@...>; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 > 15:27:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net > ([127.0.0.1]) > by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, > port 10032) with ESMTP id 4Z0AwczzKYz2 for > <ilya.dogolazky@...>; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:27:25 -0600 (CST) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id > 4CC3E6405B8 for <ilya.dogolazky@...>; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 > 15:27:11 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at > pearsoncomputing.net > Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1]) > by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, > port 10026) with ESMTP id AOFsSTpgHHzp for > <ilya.dogolazky@...>; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:27:11 -0600 (CST) > Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21]) > by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id > 5EC6E6405BE for <ilya.dogolazky@...>; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 > 15:27:05 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 7106 invoked by uid 1002); 8 > Nov 2014 15:27:03 -0600 Mailing-List: contact > trinity-users-help@...; run by ezmlm > Precedence: bulk > X-No-Archive: yes > List-Post: <mailto:trinity-users@...> > List-Help: <mailto:trinity-users-help@...> > List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto:trinity-users-unsubscribe@...> > List-Subscribe: > <mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@...> > Reply-To: trinity-users@... > Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@... > Received: (qmail 7098 invoked by uid 64014); 8 Nov 2014 15:27:03 > -0600 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; > s=s2048; t=1415482021; > bh=UzH5/VHrwmb9JvkCfI8ufuvq+VkIKY2AeDPg1SiCdYo=; > h=From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject >; > b=Po7MpSsKOjADl05QLz3Edy933/1M+IQ9b4Pyj/t36LRcTEcsOLav83eVi2UAwDZ8B >7hO9fAFupC2OGM04Y5c+yZM/iyv+T5qwJEs0GBWMcyqWF/C2GCujIi8YjpGuX4F1zzqk >Aytx0OKyVC2Ppwv6co/KNuD58jJMs65ymkburf5BFfedSArH+EgG0sY2rPdP8j5V5j++ >kJGiA1IWqWnkcaw/mHbU3F8TlV90cFRSIwUDxVRvAZyuj/159IGv7VXBNnV1loyJdbnF >AuPs2vLdgaf3J1Pa69huM0HTHtE7zaMWUrVYIEt0D3av2nulfmZWACQCfjQ3CTC+inGk >VsglA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; > d=yahoo.com; > b=UCx6qklfZYp+a8IiOkKP9n07+euU/XV5/HABRcNqWg1ngM8fxFJIoE9rVDWSgH8A/ >uXN/mw0zaXoQrrfGC3qXwKbxqMixmxajFYNq4kCJcfDuaaaeTdZmUgQIDWTtpHZf79/H >aV8PSL0VZ+o+Cg3a2DZPBvECIXQvtuuoZNpbJS7M5KwOO6Stv3r724SjHXzlFeU93FUy >r0KwnjA9mzRs+QXs70v3MmKT670vs8c8TIniCq0eh5shwHqhd2Nt+27upxoVYt+YLK0+ >xvWGzSbNhBUBXVJK8UmOGVOYjcEhzBwzN9BMNxpI2+WGd8eBEeA3mJXs01gmg8nGpkLO >+7Gew==; X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: > 819014.71042.bm@... X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: > ymail-3 > X-YMail-OSG: nK7eEHMVM1kn.1lcBElgG120QiF4YnIPZiEja12srvi.zJF > qyadEvWorrnd5hc6cw9TzPvEhQ0vQZFUv.PyLrI3q4.FUNKroyazgy857m4I > 0X4DvT4HyesYvOkORA.e_Ox_tyoq4bna7Kcd3crmO2VKeMT5m1qbzMU5UA5a > 7aAxR.Y1_LgVF4VUoiy4ipQd.IGfxpDZMi.JDewyXlGXw7RQuZd5hIJtKWv6 > AVzzTXmyooqoIES7RGE2Ex0oexpa4K4dRAXxpBVqmnjTsdDC_huVRrqPSZrF > JcI_kC8aGTe99qCirt_Q8_VYDE3DXJNMxlWCdeE8Nszb_.2JziKI0Gng_ZRP > SHzTNL7zCaf6BEtIteoAEihui8yucV7ALCgkstyO6vqneiJhgTW2rcSgi84B > UmkwfB3ZNDqOamCSD.J9tiLb3cdWfFKzKPJmDRiNOrX0k.0KrpVzes00AWQs > 4qn.VnnWQppsrPdbm0uNOYri3IexjVfqyqzNjd96I.LXJA7KPYZ1VNH0JuZR > vhHvxEl6a90GXplGZkwrYoR1eg3gai39YecBJoReyGVur9_lDp7X8yd9s05Y > Zfdsn_i20Z_3LL3o27c2DGMzBv547aIbj53W7a_MGP2KLp0YcsxMvKKInF3p > n0X25pEhjS2ZVw0a1yWLsy_TUBqav3dH51XQ- > X-Yahoo-SMTP: oof8RZSswBD6lyWf5CrTMZF.f7.PtyA- > From: Andy <Andy4stuff@...> > To: trinity-users@... > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:27:01 -0500 > User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) > References: > <7e2577d182b15c9f809141d3b3d77203.squirrel@...> > <201411082157.04471.gerhard.zintel@...> > <020c0156d6b7ef517c3bb28cd2f845be.squirrel@...> > In-Reply-To: > <020c0156d6b7ef517c3bb28cd2f845be.squirrel@...> > X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > Message-Id: <201411081627.01647.Andy4stuff@...> > Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Email server maintenance > > On Saturday 08 November 2014 04:00:46 pm Timothy Pearson wrote: > > > On Saturday 08 November 2014, Andrew Young wrote: > > >> On 07/11/14 11:55, Baron wrote: > > >> > On Friday 07 November 2014 03:08:29 Timothy Pearson wrote: > > >> >> The Email server is now back online and functioning > > >> >> normally. Please let me know if you encounter any > > >> >> difficulties. > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks! > > >> >> > > >> >> Tim > > >> > > > >> > I wonder, does this mean that I might be able to see my own > > >> > posts. :-) > > >> > > >> That would be a useful feature. > > > > > > I might missunderstand but - I always see / saw my own mail on > > > the list (working with Kmail). > > > Gerhard > > > > Same here as well, with various clients. I am aware of some > > providers having interoperability issues with the > > pearsoncomputing.net Email server; hopefully the upgrade has > > resolved most of them but I need feedback to know one way or the > > other. > > > > Tim > > I'm using Yahoo email through Kmail. I *used* to see my own posts, > but haven't in a long time. > > Andy -- Best Regards: Baron