> > ok, that sounds not such a big issue. I'll still hesitate to move my office > box from 3.5.10 (from lenny) to 3.5.12 (tinity) although I've migrated all > other boxes ... call me coward trust me, I was THERE.. I was playing with trinity on my laptop, but didn't want to rock the boat on my desktop. It has been so nice just letting Lenny run its course... But I am GLAD I did it! things just seem snappier, it all works well, new versions of things are nicer... I am happy now. I was pushed kicking & screaming, but 6 hours later, everything is great. -- Paul Cartwright