On Friday 27 February 2015 15:42:39 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 27 February 2015 09:01:53 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 27 February 2015 13:24:21 Uwe Brauer wrote:
> > > >> "Dave" == Dave Lers <lists@...> writes:
> > >    > Dan Youngquist wrote:
> > >    >> On 02/26/2015 03:22 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> However I opened the control center and I cannot find the user
> > > >> administration tool and am familiar with. Is this included any new
> > > >> package?
> > > >>
> > >    >> Is it kuser you're looking for?  I think you have to install it
> > >    >
> > >    > System > User Manager (KUser), default r14 on Wheezy.
> > >
> > > And what is with the old one I posted a screenshot of?
> >
> > I think that that is basically an Ubuntu programme.  Perhaps it uis in
> > Synaptic, if it is no longet there by default.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Lisi; I ran into something else last night using that admin utility.  I use
> sudo for all the root stuff and have never even set a root password.
>
> This is a more of less default wheezy install, and uses sudo for all that
> stuff.

No, Gene, it isn't.  You installed that cnc or something special version.

> The password for "admin", eg root, tasks does not accept the users sudo
> password, asking for the (root? it doesn't say) password in a forever loop.
> This is a bug. I suspect its TDE wide in effect.  And should be filed.

No, it isn't a bug.  Just set up a root password.  Most of us using Debian 
(not all, I agree) have one.  Google "ubuntu set root password".

> I can generally hack around it with a sudo -i session of geany, (never
> gedit as it can trash, BTDT, several times, your whole system,) but find
> that it also does not work because the root acquired in that manner cannot
> run any graphical interfaces since the X session is the users.  So an
> immortal root session to get several things done, is turned into an
> individual sudo name_of_command.
>
> That can be a right PITA, even for a user whose first linux install was Red
> Hat 5.0 in 1998.
>
> There was at one time a workaround which consisted of actually starting
> another X session for root, a bad practice IMO, and I've long since
> forgotten how to do it.  80 yo wet ram problems.  Yeah, old coot at the
> wheel here.

Just set up a root password!  And do remember, because it seems often to be 
relevant, you have NOT got a default Wheezy install.  (You had issues with 
that, remember?  You found a one person bug!!)

Lisi