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Re: [trinity-users] R14: where is the user administration

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:57:01 -0500

On Friday 27 February 2015 10:54:29 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 27 February 2015 15:42:39 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 27 February 2015 09:01:53 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Friday 27 February 2015 13:24:21 Uwe Brauer wrote:
> > > > >> "Dave" == Dave Lers <lists@...> writes:
> > > >    > Dan Youngquist wrote:
> > > >    >> On 02/26/2015 03:22 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> However I opened the control center and I cannot find the user
> > > > >> administration tool and am familiar with. Is this included any new
> > > > >> package?
> > > > >>
> > > >    >> Is it kuser you're looking for?  I think you have to install it
> > > >    >
> > > >    > System > User Manager (KUser), default r14 on Wheezy.
> > > >
> > > > And what is with the old one I posted a screenshot of?
> > >
> > > I think that that is basically an Ubuntu programme.  Perhaps it uis in
> > > Synaptic, if it is no longet there by default.
> > >
> > > Lisi
> >
> > Lisi; I ran into something else last night using that admin utility.  I
> > use sudo for all the root stuff and have never even set a root password.
> >
> > This is a more of less default wheezy install, and uses sudo for all that
> > stuff.
>
> No, Gene, it isn't.  You installed that cnc or something special version.
>
> > The password for "admin", eg root, tasks does not accept the users sudo
> > password, asking for the (root? it doesn't say) password in a forever
> > loop. This is a bug. I suspect its TDE wide in effect.  And should be
> > filed.
>
> No, it isn't a bug.  Just set up a root password.  Most of us using Debian
> (not all, I agree) have one.  Google "ubuntu set root password".
>
> > I can generally hack around it with a sudo -i session of geany, (never
> > gedit as it can trash, BTDT, several times, your whole system,) but find
> > that it also does not work because the root acquired in that manner
> > cannot run any graphical interfaces since the X session is the users.  So
> > an immortal root session to get several things done, is turned into an
> > individual sudo name_of_command.
> >
> > That can be a right PITA, even for a user whose first linux install was
> > Red Hat 5.0 in 1998.
> >
> > There was at one time a workaround which consisted of actually starting
> > another X session for root, a bad practice IMO, and I've long since
> > forgotten how to do it.  80 yo wet ram problems.  Yeah, old coot at the
> > wheel here.
>
> Just set up a root password!

It's something I haven't had to do in 4+ years, feels a bit retrograde, and a 
different password will confound my usage on the other 4 machines here.

> And do remember, because it seems often to be 
> relevant, you have NOT got a default Wheezy install.  (You had issues with
> that, remember?  You found a one person bug!!)

Chuckle, I am a graduate, Summa Cum Laude, of the school that teaches how to 
do that.  I must have got stoned and missed it though, don't even remember 
taking the course, but I am very very good at that.

What is the maximum length of a password in characters?

Thanks Lisi.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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