On Sunday 22 March 2015 02:46:06 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 22 March 2015 03:18:36 Gene Heskett wrote: > > This has all worked without a trace of pulse even being installed. > > In the Debian list you say that you have installed pavucontrol and it > doesn't work. It wouldn't if pulseaudio is not installed. > (PulseAudioVolUme = pavu) As I suggested there, have you tested your > sound hardware? (I suggested a live CD to test.) > > Lisi Neither of them will run of coarse, no pulse server. Speaker-test was also muted. As was KsCD with Johnny Cash's "The man comes round" showing on the window and play progress bar. But I did find and fix it about 4 hours ago, by installing the alsamixer and its gui, which was never done before and finding that it was all turned down to zero when I ran it. So its working again. I haven't had to resort to that in several years. But my puzzlement stems from wondering why a powerdown reboot should mute it all, except the incoming email beep from kmail. Strange. But at least I know how to fix it if it does it again. But I would also like to figure out a way to prevent the unconnected hdmi "hda_intel" audio on this eVga made nvidia video card from being discovered and supposedly configured. I cannot blacklist the snd-hda-intel driver module since it is the same driver for both audio systems. And that has occured several times in the past 5 years or so. The product id for the bad system, card1 is 1302, but that doesn't grep in /lib/udev. And while I have on previous installs, fiddled with udev rules, its in desparation, not from any guru knowledge of how to do it correctly. Greg Hartman is the final answer there, and that mountain of a man is busier than that famous cat, on the equally famous tin roof. :) The info in the man pages for udev isn't very good at such specifics. That and I get lost in the abreviations without ever learning what the foundation word means. We have way too many TLA's. Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>